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post Jan 25 2008, 08:13 PM
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Some of you may notice I'm currently researching lots about the "allowed and not allowed" aspects of magick. More over the "good" or "bad" perspective I'm forced to take being a loyal follower of God and Jesus Christ. This explains why everything I'm involved with now is strictly research. Research and understanding concerning how potentially living and participating a certain area of magick will effect my "good person status" in Gods eyes. I intend to ask questions here a lot regarding things to which I cannot find answers to through other means. I need to listen to arguments that would allow me to make a choice for myself. By the time I have completely gone through it all an established a sort of "end" to these types of questions, there will be enough information on the forum for people in exact situations as mine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hideingbhindcurtian.gif)
So, unfortunately I've witnessed on several accounts that astrology is a sin. In fact, I've heard that ALL forms of divination are sins and should be completely avoided to stay in God's good graces. As most of you can understand, this has halted my magick research as of now seeing as though Astrology eventually intertwines itself our magick learnings. Again, I have heard lots on the argument of astrology being a sin, I must hear a counterargument to make my own choice. Or I must hear agreements to it being sin. Any help is appreciated as always. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/egypt1.gif)

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post Jan 30 2008, 04:54 PM
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No, no, I most certainly did not mean that it is sinful or evil in the eyes of God, but that it is only labeled as such, based on the human standards of judgment attributed to God, mostly for the purpose of mass social control. Magick puts your own powers, the powers of Nature and the spiritual world in the hands of the practitioner, placing the responsibility of personal evolution and growth in that person's own hands. No one can do it for you. No one can intercede on your behalf. And the divine is meant to be known, to be experienced, not just to be believed in. Do you really think that the church would want people to believe that that kind of personal power and knowledge is ok? Of course not, they would try to stamp it out and have you in fear. People who are afraid are most easily controlled. The more you know God, the more you come to know yourself, your true self, your inner nature, beneath all the masks and illusions we hide behind. Then no one, not even yourself (most importantly yourself), can control you.

You keep bringing up concerns about how God may see you or judge you, and I understand that. However, when someone loves you, truly loves you, that person sees who you really are, beneath everything else. Not only does God see that, but God wants you to see that, especially since that inner nature, that true core of your being, of who you are is forever at one with God. In magick, this is called the Holy Guardian Angel. Union with the Angel, with your own inner, eternal divinity is the goal of magick. To truly know yourself as God knows you, and to then realize that there is and never was any separation between you and the divine.

God gave you intelligence, heart, intuition, desire, etc for a reason, and not to test your obedience to "God's will", or God's will according to man. That leap of faith into the unknown is what you were meant to do.

One of my favorite pieces of inspirational wisdom on this subject comes from a section of the Corpus Hermeticum, Mind Unto Hermes. I hope you don't mind, but I really feel like posting it here, since it's quite relevant.
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If, then, thou dost not make thyself like unto God, thou canst not know Him. For like is knowable unto like [alone].

Make, [then,] thyself to grow to the same stature as the Greatness which transcends all measure; leap forth from every body; transcend all time; become Eternity <literally, Aeon>; and [thus] shalt thou know God.

Conceiving nothing is impossible unto thyself, think thyself deathless and able to know all - all arts, all sciences, the way of every life.

Become more lofty than all height, and lower than all depth. Collect into thyself all senses of [all] creatures - of fire, [and] water, dry and moist. Think that thou art at the same time in every place - in earth, in sea, in sky; not yet begotten, in the womb, young, old, [and] dead, in after-death conditions.

And if thou knowest all these things at once - times, places, doings, qualities, and quantities; thou canst know God.

21. But if thou lockest up thy soul within thy body, and dost debase it, saying: I nothing know; I nothing can; I fear the sea; I cannot scale the sky; I know not who I was, who I shall be - what is there [then] between [thy] God and thee?


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"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
Einstein

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Priest   Astrology A Sin?   Jan 25 2008, 08:13 PM
bym   Greetings! Although I'm not a Xtian (pardo...   Jan 25 2008, 09:20 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I also am not a christian, but In Genesis 1:14 it ...   Jan 25 2008, 10:23 PM
Imperial Arts   The Catholic Church has been highly suppressive of...   Jan 26 2008, 01:56 AM
Petrus   So, unfortunately I've witnessed on several ac...   Jan 26 2008, 02:53 AM
Slayden   Alright I'm going to save you a LOT of trouble...   Jan 26 2008, 06:48 AM
Priest   --------------------------------------------------...   Jan 28 2008, 09:40 PM
plainsight   There are three maps called "life". One ...   Jan 29 2008, 08:37 AM
Priest   There are three maps called "life". One ...   Jan 29 2008, 01:40 PM
flyingmojo   I see I am going to have to tread lightly with thi...   Jan 29 2008, 07:00 PM
Priest   You offer a very calm and very intuitive overview ...   Jan 30 2008, 03:08 PM
plainsight   There will be a day when man changes the stars a...   May 8 2008, 01:41 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   There will be a day when man changes the stars and...   May 8 2008, 02:07 PM
plainsight   Are we not also of existence? of stars? of earth...   May 8 2008, 02:53 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Are we not also of existence? of stars? of earth? ...   May 8 2008, 03:44 PM
plainsight   Not quite, but almost, Genesis 1:27. Incorrec...   May 13 2008, 01:37 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Not quite, but almost, Genesis 1:27. Being made i...   May 13 2008, 03:32 AM
Priest   This thread has seen it's share of opinions an...   May 14 2008, 07:42 PM

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