Wizards For Hire? Options

Expertise in any sort of occult path requires a significant commitment of time and effort. There are dozens of books to be read over countless hours, and a great deal of work to be done no matter what sort of spells and rituals you have chosen to pursue. Anyone who has actually done these things could be reasonably considered an occult expert of some sort, if not a bona fide magician worthy of esteem. The amount of study and work required is at least equivalent to what one would put into a collegiate degree or professional training in a trade.

Certainly a person of modest means and intelligence, given the inclination, could learn to practice his or her own magic; but these people could also learn to do the other jobs for which professionals are called. Do you install your own electricity and plumbing, fix your radiator, style your hair, and evaluate the condition of your father's prostate gland? I doubt it, and no one would expect it if you did: professional assistance is warranted and even recommended.

Where, then, do you stand on the subject of hiring an occult professional?

If you had no occult practices of your own, would you hire such an individual? Upon what conditions or criteria would you do so?

Under what conditions would you undertake paid magical work, and to what extent? How would you determine the appropriate fees?

Personally I would not charge for occult services no matter what the price or the request. I strive to set magical goals that are productive enough in their own right, without the need to sell the same service to others. If I feel that someone else warrants my help, I give it freely. If requested for intervention, I say "no" and then either do it anyway or ignore it completely, at my discretion.

I believe that a magician should be independent, at least to the extent that he or she is not reduced to drooling over the possibility of a hand-out. We ought to be in charge over what we choose to conjure for ourselves and for others, so that we make happen what we think is best instead of what we expect to be paid for doing. Obviously this is only my opinion though, as there are many people who are happy to sell any old thing as long it makes money, and I wouldn't really hold it against them for earning a living.

One of the biggest differences I can see in hiring a magician versus hiring a plumber is that you can be relatively certain that the plumber will actually come over and install pipes. With magicians, especially online or by mail-order, there is no such guarantee, and I have known many to simply collect client checks and laugh about it, without any intention to do the spell or ritual at all. The customer complains, and inevitably the fault is pinned on the customer for failure to comply with some obscure terms of the original deal. Selling services as a spell-caster or spirit-conjurer is, by and large, the business of frauds and is rightly made illegal in many civilized nations.

If I were to hire a magician, I would first ask whether or not he or she had previously conjured for the same sort of problem in the past. This is obviously no guarantee, but it will give an impression of how the conjuror presents his or her work. If he says he cures cancer or reunites lovers, I want examples. I would also never, under any condition, pay before the spell or whatever has satisfied the original conditions under which I agreed to pay. Notarized agreements to pay, or maybe even some sort of escrow, might be appropriate; but giving money (especially a lot of money) before the fact is pretty stupid without a very good reason.

I should mention here that while I am skeptical of conjurors, I have seen magicians of many paths cure diseases, help in personal relationships, bring financial favor, and all the other things the same fake magicians promise. These things are not rare or exclusive practices hoarded by elsuive authentic magicians: they are basic goals of most magicial traditions worldwide. I would not dismiss the for-hire sorcerers out of hand for simply charging for their services, but it would be ignorant to deny that there are problems in this business.

I think a lot of people pay the spell-casting frauds because they feel as though there might be a chance that these scam artists are legitimate. It is very often a case of excess cash and insufficient intelligence on the part of the customer. Amusingly, when the big scam spell-casters are caught, many of their former clients (some of whom have paid tens of thousands of dollars) refuse to come forward to accuse them of fraud either out of embarrassment or out of fear of the fake wizards.

Has anyone here ever paid for magical work to be done? What did you pay, what did you request, and how did it go?

Expertise in any sort of occult path requires a significant commitment of time and effort. There are dozens of books to be read over countless hours, and a great deal of work to be done no matter what sort of spells and rituals you have chosen to pursue. Anyone who has actually done these things could be reasonably considered an occult expert of some sort, if not a bona fide magician worthy of esteem. The amount of study and work required is at least equivalent to what one would put into a collegiate degree or professional training in a trade.

Certainly a person of modest means and intelligence, given the inclination, could learn to practice his or her own magic; but these people could also learn to do the other jobs for which professionals are called. Do you install your own electricity and plumbing, fix your radiator, style your hair, and evaluate the condition of your father's prostate gland? I doubt it, and no one would expect it if you did: professional assistance is warranted and even recommended.

Where, then, do you stand on the subject of hiring an occult professional?

If you had no occult practices of your own, would you hire such an individual? Upon what conditions or criteria would you do so?

Under what conditions would you undertake paid magical work, and to what extent? How would you determine the appropriate fees?

Personally I would not charge for occult services no matter what the price or the request. I strive to set magical goals that are productive enough in their own right, without the need to sell the same service to others. If I feel that someone else warrants my help, I give it freely. If requested for intervention, I say "no" and then either do it anyway or ignore it completely, at my discretion.

I believe that a magician should be independent, at least to the extent that he or she is not reduced to drooling over the possibility of a hand-out. We ought to be in charge over what we choose to conjure for ourselves and for others, so that we make happen what we think is best instead of what we expect to be paid for doing. Obviously this is only my opinion though, as there are many people who are happy to sell any old thing as long it makes money, and I wouldn't really hold it against them for earning a living.

One of the biggest differences I can see in hiring a magician versus hiring a plumber is that you can be relatively certain that the plumber will actually come over and install pipes. With magicians, especially online or by mail-order, there is no such guarantee, and I have known many to simply collect client checks and laugh about it, without any intention to do the spell or ritual at all. The customer complains, and inevitably the fault is pinned on the customer for failure to comply with some obscure terms of the original deal. Selling services as a spell-caster or spirit-conjurer is, by and large, the business of frauds and is rightly made illegal in many civilized nations.

If I were to hire a magician, I would first ask whether or not he or she had previously conjured for the same sort of problem in the past. This is obviously no guarantee, but it will give an impression of how the conjuror presents his or her work. If he says he cures cancer or reunites lovers, I want examples. I would also never, under any condition, pay before the spell or whatever has satisfied the original conditions under which I agreed to pay. Notarized agreements to pay, or maybe even some sort of escrow, might be appropriate; but giving money (especially a lot of money) before the fact is pretty stupid without a very good reason.

I should mention here that while I am skeptical of conjurors, I have seen magicians of many paths cure diseases, help in personal relationships, bring financial favor, and all the other things the same fake magicians promise. These things are not rare or exclusive practices hoarded by elsuive authentic magicians: they are basic goals of most magicial traditions worldwide. I would not dismiss the for-hire sorcerers out of hand for simply charging for their services, but it would be ignorant to deny that there are problems in this business.

I think a lot of people pay the spell-casting frauds because they feel as though there might be a chance that these scam artists are legitimate. It is very often a case of excess cash and insufficient intelligence on the part of the customer. Amusingly, when the big scam spell-casters are caught, many of their former clients (some of whom have paid tens of thousands of dollars) refuse to come forward to accuse them of fraud either out of embarrassment or out of fear of the fake wizards.

Has anyone here ever paid for magical work to be done? What did you pay, what did you request, and how did it go?

After a year or two of training on my own I took it upon myself to visit another quality mystic for lessons and I paid in cash for the time I spent there learning. In my experience it was very useful for helping me decide upon goals and working out what i'm capable of. One thing to keep in mind - I have never heard of anyone being pushed further than they can handle at any one time. If your hoping to gain "mastery" in an unrealistic time frame you'll hurt your chances of improvement. On the other hand keeping yourself in the game and working intently towards you goals will ensure your success.

With magicians, especially online or by mail-order, there is no such guarantee, and I have known many to simply collect client checks and laugh about it, without any intention to do the spell or ritual at all. The customer complains, and inevitably the fault is pinned on the customer for failure to comply with some obscure terms of the original deal. Selling services as a spell-caster or spirit-conjurer is, by and large, the business of frauds and is rightly made illegal in many civilized nations

I have bought very strong talismans from people I have learned have the ability themselves and have been mightily impressed.

You want the personal experience too it seems; firstly I left for training for a week. I paid for airfare, training, and for food for that week and it ran me a couple hundred dollars. The training was top notch and my instructor was very intent upon teaching me all he could, and trying to help me with any problem I was having trouble with. I ended up getting more than I bargained for and returned 4 months later for two weeks of further training.

I learned years worth of stuff in that short time, and my energy body actually hurt painfully after I left that first week as it caught up to the state of mind I was in and strained under my new energy leaps. In my second round of training I mentioned the pain and he was made sure everything was healed before I left the second time.

I requested learning how to communicate with my Higher Self - relearning abilties that I had cut myself off from in the past - Projecting (Astral) and (Mental) - uses of energy --- I also requested that I wanted to learn anything he thought I would be ready for, or could handle. I didn't ask for much, but we ended up on many other subjects and I learned stuff that I wouldn't have ever thought to ask. We went into my psyche and ratted out some things that were holding me back - worked with ArchAngels, spirits, and other strong mystics. I gained more types of energy that I use often - learned about astral tools. It was good stuff.