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Kirie
post Feb 18 2008, 08:10 AM
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Is there any magickal use in virginity? Or at least in females, considering the entire fuss religious traditions make over it?

I've been wondering about this for a while and I can't seem to find anything relevant to the question that isn't biased by our christian heritage. There's a good bit of magick centering around sex, but I'm reluctant because the opposite might be just as true. I'm loath to just have sex for shits and later discover a branch of magick that specifically asks for this!

Does anyone here know something about such a system? Or how the hymen virginity relates to energy? I vaguely recall one of the grimoirs asking for a female practitioner to also be a virgin.

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post Feb 23 2008, 06:41 PM
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The only use I have heard for being a virgin is that it can be found attractive when searching for a partner.

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post Feb 24 2008, 11:53 AM
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"loss of virginity" implies that that you are losing a state. One never says, 'attainment of sexuality'..and i figure this is because virgins have their own sense of sexuality which is displaced when they come to a final gratification. No one ever thinks of children as being virgins...the thought seems contradictory, but i think the title implies that they HAVE a sexuality. It is interesting why anyone would find virginity attractive if it is such a passive state.

as for Hollywood, we all know how sexist it really is. the archetypal 'woman in distress' however has existed long before movies were using it. there is indeed a fragile and hopeless image connected with "virgins", but why do you think the image is attacked so?
i think that before it was connected to weakness, it was a symbol of power. Otherwise, why would virginity hold such a powerful place in our consciousness? Do you think that it is coincidence that Hollywood gets big bucks off of it?

Think of it this way. Unas stated that sex was a powerful means of balancing male and female energies; does that mean that a woman's virginity is a state of raw feminine power? Hollywood warped it into an image of helplessness, where these women needed man to complete them. Not so. Virginity is a complete state as it is.

But how to use this state in ritual? Its a good question...and im a little curious...any suggestions? and then i have another question.

Why is male virginity so underplayed? is it not a form of raw male energy? Ive wondered if it is often characterized with penetration and action, then why does it rely so heavily on its female counterpart? Why is it not considered a complete force by itself?

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