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Weapon of Earth - Pentacle, How to construct the earth pentacle

A_Smoking_Fox	Mar 29 2005, 12:22 PM Post #1
Zelator Posts: 465 Age: N/A From: Belgium Reputation: 3 pts	I'm building an earth pentacle to use in my rituals, but i have some doubts on its creation. I'm building it around 6 inches, out of some wood boards i glued together. I read in "Modern Magick" by "Kraig" that it is better to be concave, because this would direct the energy directly back to the one who sent it, in case of an attack. I really don't agree to that, as i don't see how anything reflects back to its origin on something concave differently from something flat. I also don't understand why it has to be used against attacks, as it is obviously meant as a defensive weapon, or a shield. And a shield is definitely not concave, more the opposite. It just doesn't add up, Kraig's theory, and it leaves me confused... Could anyone give me some advise on this. Also, the origin of the god names that are meant to go around it are not given in Kraig's book, I would like to know them to. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) -------------------- In LVX, Frater A.V.I.A.F.

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Eroscupidonamor	Aug 17 2006, 08:27 AM Post #2
Zelator Posts: 153 Age: N/A Gender: Male Reputation: none	I am sorry I got you angry...that was not my intention... Again I am not making assuptions,but the 2 examples that you gave are not exactly what I was talking about... Your examples are about the comunity workings-with more tthan one mage...but I agree with u at this point...you can practice energy magic without tools... an again sorry but i remain with my opinion that you can not practice high evocative magic without the tools...at least not until u make full contact with the spirit world and u recive personal magical formulas from there! well,but do not believe me...consider me stupid...I remain a skeptical believer! -------------------- Exorcizo igitur te creatura!

Angalor	Aug 17 2006, 08:43 AM Post #3
Zelator Posts: 146 Age: N/A Gender: Female From: Minnesota Reputation: none	QUOTE(Eroscupidonamor @ Aug 17 2006, 09:27 AM) I am sorry I got you angry...that was not my intention... Again I am not making assuptions,but the 2 examples that you gave are not exactly what I was talking about... Your examples are about the comunity workings-with more tthan one mage...but I agree with u at this point...you can practice energy magic without tools... an again sorry but i remain with my opinion that you can not practice high evocative magic without the tools...at least not until u make full contact with the spirit world and u recive personal magical formulas from there! well,but do not believe me...consider me stupid...I remain a skeptical believer! shrugs It's ok..no harm done. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Thus in magick it's always specified "to each their own." Do what works best for you. This post has been edited by Angalor: Aug 17 2006, 08:46 AM -------------------- By ignorance is pride increased; those most assume know the least. ~Gay Angalor.com

Mchawi	Mar 1 2008, 11:20 AM Post #4
Zelator Posts: 398 Age: N/A Gender: Male Reputation: 3 pts	Old topic but... Shouldn't tools etc represent manifestations on all levels of exsistance rather than just astral?... and wouldn't people say that the Pentacle should be convex to somewhat represent the mound of creation? A personal interpretation of course, don't think it does well being flat. Noticed the Self Initiation text by the Cieros mentions that the construction and consecration of tools should be left until the last grade whereas others would have one construct and consecrate them in their various grades which makes perfect sence as you would then be charging said tool with the energies of that grade.

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A_Smoking_Fox Weapon of Earth - Pentacle Mar 29 2005, 12:22 PM

Nero You are right to doubt Kraig's shape. I am n... Mar 29 2005, 04:34 PM

Athena For the pentacle I would recommend that if concave... Mar 29 2005, 07:46 PM

A_Smoking_Fox so i should use a hexagram too, instead of a penta... Mar 30 2005, 02:53 AM

fiat_lux_777 93 There is something to be said for understand... Mar 30 2005, 04:24 AM

A_Smoking_Fox That is good info fiat_lux_777, now i know the mea... Mar 30 2005, 06:08 AM

Nero :goodposting: I do have one issue with your t... Mar 30 2005, 09:12 AM

A_Smoking_Fox Another question, where can one learn these corres... Mar 30 2005, 12:14 PM

Nero Bear in mind there are a lot of different system... Mar 30 2005, 12:54 PM

A_Smoking_Fox I have regardie's garden of pomegranates and r... Mar 30 2005, 02:39 PM

Nero Yes actually that is not a bad idea. I will come... Mar 30 2005, 02:54 PM

fiat_lux_777 Now I agree 100% with the rest of your definitio... Mar 31 2005, 05:55 AM

A_Smoking_Fox anyway, thanks for the advise. i finished coloring... Mar 31 2005, 09:27 AM

The White Chaos anyway, thanks for the advise. i finished coloring... May 29 2006, 05:55 PM

BrotherM All thats left now is to add your name, nice work ... Jun 17 2005, 03:45 PM

Sebastianus 93! would it make sense to use a unicursal h... Oct 11 2005, 06:52 PM

animus 93! would it make sense to use a unicursal h... May 21 2006, 03:50 AM

The White Chaos I guess the concave shape follows "Bowl Logic... May 21 2006, 12:15 AM

Arcangle90 Very nice earth pentacle. I've always thought... Jun 8 2006, 06:06 AM

Eroscupidonamor IT is an wonderfull pentacle... but not many know ... Aug 15 2006, 04:21 PM

FraterTMPC IT is an wonderfull pentacle... but not many know ... Aug 15 2006, 04:50 PM

Eroscupidonamor well the way that i got my information is quiet lo... Aug 15 2006, 06:51 PM

Seraphim Smoking Fox, First of all, nice work on the... Aug 15 2006, 07:39 PM

Eroscupidonamor I do not much agree with Serafim... Well let's... Aug 16 2006, 05:21 AM

Angalor I do not much agree with Serafim... Well let's... Aug 16 2006, 08:25 AM

A_Smoking_Fox i kindly thank you for apreciating my handy work. ... Aug 16 2006, 08:56 AM

Eroscupidonamor for the ceremonialists is clear that the jurney to... Aug 16 2006, 10:57 AM

Angalor for the ceremonialists is clear that the jurney to... Aug 16 2006, 12:02 PM

Eroscupidonamor The thing is that is not a question of dependence ... Aug 16 2006, 06:58 PM

Angalor The thing is that is not a question of dependence ... Aug 17 2006, 07:59 AM

Eroscupidonamor I am sorry I got you angry...that was not my inten... Aug 17 2006, 08:27 AM

Angalor I am sorry I got you angry...that was not my inten... Aug 17 2006, 08:43 AM

Mchawi Old topic but... Shouldn't tools etc represen... Mar 1 2008, 11:20 AM

Sinister Ok. Yeah - old topic. Still... I've been thin... Jul 30 2008, 08:38 AM

iampagan Well, let's put aside the nessessity of using ... Sep 17 2008, 05:36 AM

Zosimo I read through this interesting thread on the eart... Sep 17 2008, 06:43 AM

iampagan Thanks for the info. Could you say something more... Sep 17 2008, 07:50 AM

Dyknowsore I have a question. What should the back of an Ear... Nov 30 2008, 02:26 PM

iampagan Well, I'm almost sure that what Kraig meant (a... Dec 1 2008, 02:12 AM

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