Kabbalah Magic Vs Self Initiation (c & T) Options

On being reccomended Kabbalah magic I have/had taken to the pratices within the book to finally lay to rest my time in 0=0 grade and move on but made the, ''mistake'' of buying the Cieros work and am now daunted in the face of the initiation process... whereas one puts heavy empahasis on physical tools and preperation the other seems to glide over the process so I thought I'd ask peoples opinion on the various techniques in regards to self initiation in a comparision of the two...

Personally prefer the rituals in Kabbalah magic along with much of the guideline involved but self initiating via drawing layouts of the temple and reciting the ritual seems to fall short of the Cieros plugging of a second purchase **cough** / reccomendation that a practicioner prepares space for a FULL temple layout, which is probably just as attractive a process as it is expencive.

Has anyone had an experience with either forms of self initiation?

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Kabbalah Magic is far easier and greatly expands on working the grades from a self Initiation perspective. I dont know why I have always felt drawn to GD formula than say Thelemic ritual but hey thats just what worked for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It sounds like you have made up your mind

SI

On being reccomended Kabbalah magic I have/had taken to the pratices within the book to finally lay to rest my time in 0=0 grade and move on but made the, ''mistake'' of buying the Cieros work and am now daunted in the face of the initiation process... whereas one puts heavy empahasis on physical tools and preperation the other seems to glide over the process so I thought I'd ask peoples opinion on the various techniques in regards to self initiation in a comparision of the two...

Personally prefer the rituals in Kabbalah magic along with much of the guideline involved but self initiating via drawing layouts of the temple and reciting the ritual seems to fall short of the Cieros plugging of a second purchase **cough** / reccomendation that a practicioner prepares space for a FULL temple layout, which is probably just as attractive a process as it is expencive.

Has anyone had an experience with either forms of self initiation?

HTP
M