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Petrus
post Jan 16 2008, 02:52 PM
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So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirits. It's an interesting book, but something that struck me is that the rituals in it are as Jewish as the proverbial Bar Mitzvah.

This begs a couple of questions.

1) How do people who adhere to non-Abrahamic religions perform evocations?
2) Are these rituals intended to imply that Judaism genuinely is "the truth," in a supreme or objective sense, to a greater degree than that of other religious systems?


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post Apr 5 2008, 03:11 AM
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From my experience I have found that although we call these entities by different names they are still the same things a God is beyond any name a human could give. Therefore i see no reason was a Pagan should have any adversion to using Christian diety names or any other religious names, I remember being taught in my childhood that there is One God and Countless faces for that One being. Not everyone is able to or ready to see the same face someone else may, but it's when we realize the Oneness of those many forces that we truly start to know them.

Anyway, there are my two cents hope I didn't offend anyone (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Apr 5 2008, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(Hermetic Angel @ Apr 5 2008, 05:11 AM) *
Therefore i see no reason was a Pagan should have any adversion to using Christian diety names or any other religious names


That sort of thinking works only in theory for christians, jews, or muslims. But for the actual deities or entities involved, that just won't do.

Perhaps a pagan wouldn't have a problem with that (doubtful), but try calling an Egyptian god like Horus and be calling him all the time he's there "Jehovah". Just wait and see if he doesn't kick your ass then and there, or possibly makes your life a living hell for awhile!

When working with any godform or entity, call it whatever it likes to be called. Don't assume you know more about it that anyone else, or that simply because something is "ok" with you doesn't mean it's fine for it.


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Petrus   Evocation For Non-christians   Jan 16 2008, 02:52 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirit...   Jan 16 2008, 06:12 PM
Mr. Curi   I suggest that you discover FIRST 'who' it...   Jan 16 2008, 06:59 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Mr. Curi, Having read Lisiewiski's book, Cerem...   Jan 16 2008, 09:33 PM
Mr. Curi   I have neither ignored nor misunderstood a single ...   Jan 17 2008, 04:15 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I think you have misunderstood what he meant by th...   Jan 17 2008, 11:34 PM
Mr. Curi   If Lisiewski's book does not cover an 'adv...   Jan 18 2008, 01:19 PM
Petrus   I suggest that you discover FIRST 'who' it...   Jan 19 2008, 06:39 PM
loki   If you don't have these already,you might want...   Jan 19 2008, 07:21 PM
Petrus   If you don't have these already,you might want...   Jan 19 2008, 10:10 PM
rif   So, I suggest looking into Hermetic Magick. Start ...   Apr 6 2008, 05:51 PM
Imperial Arts   It is always amusing to see how people react when ...   Jan 16 2008, 08:09 PM
altpath   Work with the grimoires as best as you can, as muc...   Jan 16 2008, 08:24 PM
altpath   Mr. Curi, I'm sure that everyone here would a...   Jan 17 2008, 05:22 PM
Mr. Curi   Yes, sorry I meant to edit that. I too like the v...   Jan 17 2008, 06:04 PM
Hideout   So I've recently been reading Summoning Spirit...   Jan 18 2008, 01:07 PM
bym   This is turning into a squabble. On one hand I hav...   Jan 18 2008, 09:24 PM
altpath   can we hear from those that have tried non-traditi...   Jan 18 2008, 09:49 PM
alkeides   The roots of much of Judaeo-Christian rituals were...   Nov 26 2009, 10:32 AM
Kath   nice post alkeides :) I practice evocation in a d...   Nov 27 2009, 11:17 AM
Ethereal Sight   So I've recently been reading Summoning Spiri...   Mar 17 2010, 09:55 AM
Praxis   I use my own system for summoning/banishing and ev...   Nov 11 2011, 09:12 PM

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