Hearing Voices When Attempting Ap Options

I have taken up astral projection after falling away from it for a time -- biggest mistake ever. It's hard trying to get the hang of it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/badmood.gif) Well, "again" might be misleading. I haven't had a full projection, rather I've had partial ones where my spirit was disjointed from my body. I could look around even though my eyes were closed and it was dark in the room.

Now that I have taken it up again and am staying cosistent, something strange happens ever once in a while. As I begin to feel the light/heavy sensations and vertigo, I'll hear my name called. Or I'll hear some strange speech I don't understand; whether this is a language I'm not familiar with or just gibberish I don't know. It's all Greek to me. Often, however, I'll hear my name followed by the gibberish, or my name in the middle of the gibberish, so I suspect it's actually a language. Whoever or whatever it is, it is speaking directly to me; I'm not merely overhearing a conversation.

What, or who, is this? What is going on? Is this a spirit guide or something else?

I agree with vagrant dreamer about the two theories going on. I also agree that both are interchangable and related.

Some additional information that might be of help: When you do open your mind up through astral projection it is a lot like learning how to walk as a baby. In fact I would be willing to bet the day in the life of a new born baby is probably very confusing and full of strange incomprehensible sounds and sensations. As the baby developes it learns to compensate with its environment and learns to make sense of its reality. Reality to the infant being on the physical plain. Now you are learning to explore realms beyond the physical. But just the same for the baby you haven't learned to make sense of such states. As already said, as you practice more these psychic realms will make more sense and you will gain more self control as well as control over your environment in such places.

The other thing is that some think when people begin to learn how to astral project they draw the attention of other beings already existing on the astral plains. This realm is much the same as the astral. As such there are creatures there who have developed there and know how to function on that level. So to them you may appear as a flash of psychic energy trying to come through but just not quite making it yet. So some would say that the voices you are hearing can be of several sources - spirit guides trying to communicate with you, "helpers" or beings that live on the astral plains who's purpose is to aid novice travelers and help them develope astral technique and thought forms or manifestations of your own thoughts.

Some contend that each thought you generate gives rise to form. Form gains function through the intent and desire of the thought. Therefore a thoughtform is a creation of intention and desire through thought. A thoughtform is composed of desire and intention. It is also a partial reflection of the self. Since it is composed of essencially your own being it can manifest as a reflection of you. Thus the sounds you hear are your own thoughtforms.

Subconscious thoughtforms are the ones you create unintentionally. But they still represent inner desires, memories and emotions. You would not be aware of these thoughtforms unless they were driven by a very powerful force within yourself. The sounds of such thoughtforms is like a cacophony. It makes little sense and has no meaning. The form of these things also tend to be distorted, even animalistic. Yet the mind, when in a state attempting to reach astral projection, becomes aware of these thoughtforms since it is now on their level. It tries to make sense of them through the most logical frame of refference it has - prior experience through mundane existance.

Conscious thoughtfroms (servitors) are then the one's you've created intentionally. Usually very well defined, strong intention, specific form, made for a purpose, and given a measure of intelligence. If you have worked with servitors in the past then it is possible that the odd sounds and sensations are comming from the dead husks of these constructs. Such things would linger on especially if you have not properly banished their energies. In this case the sounds are just residual energies. Or if you still have active servitors it is possible that they are attempting to interact with you. Perhaps you have one that has fullfilled its purpose but not out lived its life span. If that were the case it would likely hang around and you and sort of keep asking "what do you want me to do next?". Which because of its nature you cannot hear it in the physical sense. But through astral projection your sense are tuning into its wave lengths and you are begining to be able to hear any thoughtform that might be around you.

The fickle thing about thoughtforms and servitors is that they might not even be things you've created, intentionally or not. They might be things generated and then projected to you from an alternate source. I think the best example I can think of such thoughtforms is any relative who is a nagging nanny. They feel worry or doubt and then project it onto you by repeatedly reminding you of things you already know. This feeds into a thoughtform that might hang around you.

Regardless of what these things might actually be, be they sentient beings reaching out to, thoughtforms or just hallucinations, it is normal to experience these things and they will become more managable as you develope more skill. One thing you might do is simply write the things you hear down once you've completed your routine. Sometimes only bits and pieces come through at one time and writting things down, over time, can produce a greater meaning.

The fickle thing about thoughtforms and servitors is that they might not even be things you've created, intentionally or not. They might be things generated and then projected to you from an alternate source. I think the best example I can think of such thoughtforms is any relative who is a nagging nanny. They feel worry or doubt and then project it onto you by repeatedly reminding you of things you already know. This feeds into a thoughtform that might hang around you.

This may be related. Because of an ID issue, I'm stuck living with my mother right now until the state finishes dragging it's feet on getting me one. My mother and I don't get along very well. At all. My father left when I was 3, my stepfather when I was 9, and my mother isn't much better than either of those two. She was hardly ever around, but when she was, she usually nagged and picked fights that were usually pointless, and still does. In fact I was about to start a new thread asking about the stress and magick and why I'm having a tremendous time astral projecting and working on other magickal pursuits.