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Slayden
post Apr 29 2008, 07:57 PM
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I have taken up astral projection after falling away from it for a time -- biggest mistake ever. It's hard trying to get the hang of it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/badmood.gif) Well, "again" might be misleading. I haven't had a full projection, rather I've had partial ones where my spirit was disjointed from my body. I could look around even though my eyes were closed and it was dark in the room.

Now that I have taken it up again and am staying cosistent, something strange happens ever once in a while. As I begin to feel the light/heavy sensations and vertigo, I'll hear my name called. Or I'll hear some strange speech I don't understand; whether this is a language I'm not familiar with or just gibberish I don't know. It's all Greek to me. Often, however, I'll hear my name followed by the gibberish, or my name in the middle of the gibberish, so I suspect it's actually a language. Whoever or whatever it is, it is speaking directly to me; I'm not merely overhearing a conversation.

What, or who, is this? What is going on? Is this a spirit guide or something else?


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Mobius
post Apr 30 2008, 08:23 PM
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This is a common occurrence when trying to reach the vibratory state just before projection..i usually hear voices whispers bells and all sorts of otherworld noises..I've yet to be able to get out because of them fear does tend to cut the experience short...and has anyone ever noticed shadow forms after you open your eyes? I used to think i was having night terrors or something but soon worked out that they were merely astral entities just curious to find out what is going on.


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post May 1 2008, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(Mobius @ Apr 30 2008, 10:23 PM) *
I used to think i was having night terrors or something but soon worked out that they were merely astral entities just curious to find out what is going on.


This and the other reference to astral entities - something most people experience at some point or another - makes me want to bring up a particular point, just so it's available out there to anyone reading.

The astral plane is not like the physical (in a certain sense) - everything there is alive, conscious, moving; it's a plane of existence that has no distinction between 'organic' and 'inorganic', 'living' or 'dead'. If you happen to find yourself in a landscape of some sort, with common symbols like trees and rocks, you can speak to the rocks, the dirt, the clouds (if there's a sky), etc., and any time that you're there you can, if you want (and sometimes if you don't want to) communicate directly with the plane itself that you're in.

So it can be misleading to read and assume that astral entities 'come by' to see 'what is happening' - because the astral plane is literally a living plane of energy; technically speaking, you're always surrounded by astral entities at all times. Likewise time and space are relative concepts that exist in a sort of flux, sometimes there, sometimes not there depending on the particulars of the intentions prominent in a particular sphere at a particular 'time'.

That said, the most common entity to 'pop up' at some point, is the thoughtform of Curiosity itself - simply the manifestation of the questioner, the seeker, the onlooker, as it is present in the astral plane. There are of course entities 'good' and 'bad' from our limited material point of view, but the good ones only appear if they are in particular resonance to the projector. This is because just being in the astral plane creates a sort of field resonance that causes those entities to be able to manifest - some are proactive and will do so without being called, and in a sense are always present, and some will come only if called, but are also in a sense always present assuming the projector creates a resonance field amiable to their existence. You have to take space and time out of the equation all together when you're trying to conceptualize the astral plane, and when interpreting your experiences there.

The bad ones work on a similar set of laws - they are there, because you, in a sense, took them there with you. The active ones will confront you, haunt you, etc., the passive ones typically have to be called or sought out.

Not to try and step on anyone's experience, but it's necessary to have a proper context of interpretation - I can't tell you how many people have described being viciously attacked by some entity who was attracted to their divine light. Those people don't typically have that much light when they go out, otherwise they wouldn't have those problems. While there are negative entities who specifically target particular 'high frequency' individuals, it is because there is an element within that individual in resonance with those entities, usually because of a desire to be challenged, to seek out battle with the forces of darkness, etc. It's part of the complicated dynamic between a timeless, spaceless, formless plane of existence, and the necessarily form-based, time-based, space-based ego the projector takes in with him/her.

Hope that gives a little insight into future questions about astral entities and their apparently curious nature. Unless an entity is specifically resonant with the concept of Curiosity - it's Archetypal force, you might say - it won't just show up to see what's going on.

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