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Slayden
post Apr 29 2008, 07:57 PM
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I have taken up astral projection after falling away from it for a time -- biggest mistake ever. It's hard trying to get the hang of it again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/badmood.gif) Well, "again" might be misleading. I haven't had a full projection, rather I've had partial ones where my spirit was disjointed from my body. I could look around even though my eyes were closed and it was dark in the room.

Now that I have taken it up again and am staying cosistent, something strange happens ever once in a while. As I begin to feel the light/heavy sensations and vertigo, I'll hear my name called. Or I'll hear some strange speech I don't understand; whether this is a language I'm not familiar with or just gibberish I don't know. It's all Greek to me. Often, however, I'll hear my name followed by the gibberish, or my name in the middle of the gibberish, so I suspect it's actually a language. Whoever or whatever it is, it is speaking directly to me; I'm not merely overhearing a conversation.

What, or who, is this? What is going on? Is this a spirit guide or something else?


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Mobius
post May 1 2008, 01:31 AM
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So they are not curious they are just..there...So right now i'm surrounded by six ft tall shadow forms and other entities..Yah i understand the whole plains interconnected to ours resonating at different frequencies so we cant see them thing..and i also understand the whole ..planet full of art and mythology and the plains are actually chock full of these mythological forms thing...truth in the guise of art methinks..it makes me wonder if shadowforms are actually a native species to the plains like the dragons,fae and were..even though we get some of them here aka the otherkin. I envy you guys..everytime i try to get out i end up seeing it but unable to get out of my body..its like i'm trapped in it staring at the ceiling frozen and then i open my physical eyes and the whole room is full of shadows i'm still frozen its a bit like sleep paralysis but not at all alarming when i'm trapped its like i know this place tha i see i just cant move in it. I have a friend who is also an angelic who claims that its impossible for an angelic to project away from the etheric plain..Can anyone help me by describing the resonant of the etheric..how does the vibration feel? I might be able to match the vibration description and get out..i've been trying for a long time and all i get is a lucid dream..


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post May 1 2008, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE(Mobius @ May 1 2008, 03:31 AM) *
Can anyone help me by describing the resonant of the etheric..how does the vibration feel? I might be able to match the vibration description and get out..i've been trying for a long time and all i get is a lucid dream..


Hmm, it's a bit off topic, but I'll try to tie it in.

THe short answer is, there's no way to really describe it - we lack a common vocabulary based on a lack of common experience. Everyone can see the color red, for instance, its a common experience - those who are blind or color-blind understand the vocabulary, but don't comprehend what it means. The same goes for descriptions of astral experiences - while the common sensory experiences (visual, auditory, etc.) are easy enough, the sensation of resonance is far more difficult. There are examples in 'normal' consciousness that are comparable however.

Have you ever felt instantly attracted and connected to another person? Have you ever found a spot that felt like it was meant for you (in the woods, etc.)? Have you ever heard a song that struck the perfect chord inside of you for that particular moment? These are all examples of resonance. To achieve resonance with a particular plane (which, by the way, takes practice, there's really no shortcut) you have to find it's 'signature' in yourself first - either because it's there naturally, or by cultivating and entering into those qualities that define that particular plane.

When you can enter into resonant frequencies with a particular entitiy that you encounter, you can communicate with far greater ease. Sometimes it's a conversation, sometimes it's telepathic, sometimes it goes even beyond that in a way that really is outside of common parlance all together.

You can practice entering resonance by practicing emotional control. Entering totally into love, bliss, fear, anger, etc. (I suggest the 'higher ones' personally, I don't think you'll like what you attract in the 'lower' emotions [higher and lower being frequency definitions, not moral ones]). Externally, you can practice by doing the same thing with another person, with places, concepts, virtually anything, really, although some things are easier than others simply due to the nature of our common interaction and sense of connection with the world around us - most of us aren't raised to 'feel' a rock, but rather people, places, and ideals.

The word 'vibration' can be misleading, because with think of those AP vibrations mostly, which is simply the result of the differential between the astral and physical body - not all vibrations are so... vibratory. Love is a vibration, fear is a vibration, or a range of them anyhow, like a bandwidth of frequencies. Your mind is a symphony of vibrations at any given moment, usually not focused into one particular bandwidth, but made up of many of them all at once. Concentration, focus, meditation, etc., are methods essentially geared towards narrowing that range down to something specific for one reason or another.

As far as getting out - it just takes a lot of practice. I would suggest every night unless there's some particular reason not to - when you're sick (at first at least, later on you can do a lot of healing work this way), undergoing some specific ritual period, extremely low on energy for any other reason, basically times when you want to conserve your energy. Practice entering into the hypnogogic state whenever you have an extra half hour you're not using. Give yourself constant reminders and time to focus on the intention to astral project that night over the course of a day. Fifteen minutes five or six times a day may suffice, to simply focus on that intention and 'hype' yourself up. "I'm going to do it tonight," "It's as easy as stepping out," etc. Whatever suites your particular model of consciousness.

Perhaps most important is to not have expectations, though, hard as it is. And to be observant. Any shock during the process can keep it from happening, can't tell you how many times I got out and was so shaken by the suddenness of the experience that it ended as soon as it began. Before that I'd get shaken out of the initial 'opening' phase before even that happened, and it took weeks and weeks of nightly practice to get to the point where I could just see it happen and let it go on it's own. It just takes time, experience, and dedication to making it happen. Remind yourself that it's an enlightening experience beyond anything you can get in the physical world, be excited about it, keep journals, but don't ever, ever, claim to have done it until you have. This is one of the most critical things! because once you start saying that you're telling your unconscious mind that you've already achieved it, and you won't get any farther for a loooooong time. You'll have to go through a breaking down process where you have to confront the fact that you haven't done what you say, and eventually think, you have, and that's a huge hurdle that is easily avoided with simply honesty.

Which isn't to suggest any judgement towards anyone here on the forum - I'm in no position. However, naturally there are always going to be people out there saying they've accomplished what they haven't, and they typically are doing nothing but harm for themselves.

So keep at it, stay honest with yourself (and everyone else, cause it's the same thing), and the whole experience will unfold naturally. There are levels you'll get to where instruction of some sort can be beneficial, but really it's a very natural process, once you get out there, you start learning immediately, especially if you call a guide - who will come in resonance with your intention to attract one, so even that takes virtually no effort. In fact, the lack of effort is one of the obstacles of mastering astral projection. Everything about astral travel is effortless, which confounds our effort based consciousness, which has been structured to function in an effort based existence since we were born. Take it easy, keep an attitude of play and fun and learning, and you won't need any advice.

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