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post Dec 15 2007, 11:42 AM
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In Book III, of Agrippa's Books of Occult Philosophy, in Chapter 26-27, there is a method to discover (supposedly) the name of a good, and a bad spirit, that has been "assigned" to you at birth.

I'm trying to do this, but I can't quite make sense of it, I'm going to be buying another translation before Christmas, and hopefully that will help clear it up, but I thought I'd try here first.

From what I can understand (which may be all wrong), the method in Chapter 26, is to take your birth chart, and starting at your Ascendant, assign in order the letters of the Hebrew Alphabet, and wherever a planet rests, that letter is part of the Spirit name. But how do you order the letters to get the name? I've figured out my seven letters, but from there, I don't know how to arrange them to find the name.

I've also read two different explanations on getting the name of the bad spirit, one is you label the letters backwards from the Ascendant, the other is you use the letters (degrees) opposite of wherever a planet rests in your chart.

Can anyone clear this up for me?

As for chapter 27, I'm just lost, so any help there would be much appreciated.


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post Jun 2 2008, 07:17 PM
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great topic truly, but I have a question for "Gesigewigus" or any one who can answer, if we divide 360/22=16.3 degrees, so we divide the chart to 22 equal intervals each with the value of 16 degrees roughly, starting from ascending and going counter clock wise, my question is would aleph by at degree 0 "the ascendant line" or would it be at the 16th degree and the last letter would be at degree 0?

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QUOTE(Abed Al Qader @ Jun 2 2008, 09:17 PM) *
great topic truly, but I have a question for "Gesigewigus" or any one who can answer, if we divide 360/22=16.3 degrees, so we divide the chart to 22 equal intervals each with the value of 16 degrees roughly, starting from ascending and going counter clock wise, my question is would aleph by at degree 0 "the ascendant line" or would it be at the 16th degree and the last letter would be at degree 0?


If I understand what you're saying, you're conceiving of this wrong. It isn't you divide the chart into 22 sections. Starting at the Ascendant line, that degree is Aleph, and each degree is the next letter of the Hebrew alphabet, until you use all 22, then you start at Aleph again. So each successive degree is another letter, not that a letter rules a 16 degree chunk of the chart.


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Gesigewigus   Finding Spirit Names From Your Natal Chart?   Dec 15 2007, 11:42 AM
SeekerVI   Wouldn't it be easier to evoke an entity who...   Dec 16 2007, 12:20 PM
palindroem   Start with the letter of your Sun sign move throug...   Dec 18 2007, 04:00 PM
Gesigewigus   Thanks Palindroem, I just have one question. When...   Dec 18 2007, 11:27 PM
palindroem   Traditionally . . . in the order they move-quickne...   Dec 21 2007, 11:49 AM
Gesigewigus   Thanks for the latter advice (sorry I didn't r...   Jan 19 2008, 11:49 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   This is a fascinating subject, I have been divinin...   Jan 23 2008, 12:24 AM
Gesigewigus   In chapter 26, Agrippa suggests that a useful geni...   Jan 28 2008, 11:32 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Okay, I understand so far. When the degrees of th...   Jan 28 2008, 11:38 PM
Gesigewigus   Okay, I understand so far. When the degrees of th...   Jan 28 2008, 11:40 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   That was fast, thanks! I was about to log off ...   Jan 28 2008, 11:42 PM
Asterion   i haven t thought a lot of this method but sounds ...   Jun 1 2008, 02:54 PM
Gesigewigus   B. the alignment that is actuallz in the natal cha...   Jun 1 2008, 09:40 PM
Asterion   The Fourth Book of pseudoAgrippa contains further ...   Jun 1 2008, 06:43 PM
Asterion   i ve only calculated my good genius letters and th...   Jun 1 2008, 10:29 PM
Abed Al Qader   If I understand what you're saying, you're...   Jun 2 2008, 09:42 PM
Asterion   the idea of this technique is the multitude of var...   Jun 2 2008, 10:18 PM
Abed Al Qader   the idea of this technique is the multitude of var...   Jun 2 2008, 11:20 PM
Asterion   Wow, you are surprisingly knowledgeable in the ea...   Jun 3 2008, 01:05 AM

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