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post Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
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What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induced state help/hinder your grasp on magick, or both? I've thought about if it would alter your ability to grasp energy, yet at the same time, could it help you become more aware of the surroundings, or your self-conscious? So what are the opinions, or facts on this subject?


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post Jun 27 2008, 12:12 PM
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Though there are millions of people who will attest to mystical experiences interwoven with drug use, I have never personally heard of anyone show a practical use for drugs in magic.

The LBRP isn't a more effective banishing when stoned. Your "spell to ruin an enemy" will not be stronger because you smoked crack. There are all manner of interesting visions and beautiful insights to be gained from drugs, but they just don't help if you're interesting in doing something practical.

I have very often seen people pass off a useless drug habit with occultism as an excuse. I think this is just playing around, and can't think of many other activities where drugs make your work more effective. If these people put half the effort they put toward "mastery of drug consciousness" toward mastery of ordinary consciousness, we would likely see a lot more magicians in the world.


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QUOTE(Imperial Arts @ Jun 27 2008, 02:12 PM) *
Though there are millions of people who will attest to mystical experiences interwoven with drug use, I have never personally heard of anyone show a practical use for drugs in magic.

The LBRP isn't a more effective banishing when stoned. Your "spell to ruin an enemy" will not be stronger because you smoked crack. There are all manner of interesting visions and beautiful insights to be gained from drugs, but they just don't help if you're interesting in doing something practical.

I have very often seen people pass off a useless drug habit with occultism as an excuse. I think this is just playing around, and can't think of many other activities where drugs make your work more effective. If these people put half the effort they put toward "mastery of drug consciousness" toward mastery of ordinary consciousness, we would likely see a lot more magicians in the world.

I like the way you think, but let me remind you that it all depends on the use of the substance, for example i use yage or ayahuaska to do what i cal dream walking, which is like meditating and also to purge myself, because yage its a powerful soul and body purger, and second let me remind you that the true ancestors of the magicians are the shamans, and shamans do experiment with natural substances, because they know the power of plants its incredible when it comes to showing you a spiritual path, but let us not confuse spirituality with a moment of fun color, plants' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif) spirits must be handled with responsability, care, love and intelligence


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Theft   Use Of Drugs For Magickal Purposes   Nov 1 2006, 12:22 AM
A_Smoking_Fox   i have experimented with drugs and magick. Its tri...   Nov 1 2006, 10:19 AM
Theft   Erowid is one of my favorite sites to visit becaus...   Nov 1 2006, 11:27 AM
Acid09   The main problem with drugs is that they act like ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:03 PM
Theft   I constantly refer back to erowid.com for medical ...   Nov 1 2006, 02:26 PM
Acid09   Sorry I just can't possibly consider dxm a ...   Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM
Theft   I used it from an over-the-counter medicine and es...   Nov 1 2006, 07:08 PM
extinctionspasm   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Nov 1 2006, 09:41 PM
kairos   If you know anything about the Qabalah you will kn...   Nov 3 2006, 01:27 PM
norrinradd   Hereisthe short answer from a modern day Hunter S ...   Oct 30 2007, 01:32 AM
wizardgryphon   i agree even though im using marijauna now for dee...   Oct 30 2007, 02:52 PM
extinctionspasm   There is so much to this topic, and without intend...   Nov 3 2006, 11:52 PM
sithhunter   There are initiations that use drugs, and I think ...   Nov 6 2006, 12:44 AM
CosmicInferno   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
Samas   forgive me if i go through digging up a few retire...   Sep 21 2007, 02:22 AM
Goibniu   Personally I wouldn't use drugs for magical pu...   Sep 21 2007, 05:09 PM
paxx   Drugs…and their use in Magick. Is a very interesti...   Oct 26 2007, 06:16 PM
wizardgryphon   if you mean like the use of peyote, mooshrooms, an...   Oct 28 2007, 03:17 PM
paxx   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 08:38 PM
wizardgryphon   But how is one really supposed to use them for the...   Oct 28 2007, 09:39 PM
Krell   All good advice I think. There seems to be the im...   Jun 27 2008, 09:04 AM
Imperial Arts   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 29 2008, 11:31 PM
shamanwizard   Probably the worst drugs available these days are ...   Jun 30 2008, 03:24 PM
Acid09   I agree with both of you. There are legitimate spi...   Jun 29 2008, 06:25 PM
Acid09   What gets to me are all those "male enhance...   Jun 30 2008, 06:14 PM
Jenfucius   What are your opinions on it? Does the drug induc...   Nov 12 2008, 05:21 PM

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