Influencing External Vs Internal Change Options

Over the years I seem to have gotten fairly good at using magick to bring about favourable circumstances in my life. Jobs, money, partners, etc. Nothing spectacular, my results could be written off as coincidences but once you get a certain amount of "coincidences" you start to realise that perhaps they aren't really coincidences... But, as a sufferer of mild anxiety and depression, I have often tried to use magick to influence my internal climate, with very little success.

Lately I have been using my daily practice of the LBRP to influence my life. When invoking the archangels, I will talk to them and ask them to grant me small favours... The results have been quite impressive when it comes to external events (one example of many is that I had problems with my feelings for a workmate. It was problematic because I had a boyfriend, and the situation had been bad for quite some time. I asked the archangels for help, and the very same day, he got fired! Which isn't as bad as it sounds for him as he was getting quite tired of wokring there anyway, and from conversations I had with him afterwards it seemed that him getting fired - or rather, being asked to resign, but with good references - had worked out in his favour. This is just one example fo the "coincidences" I've had). Yet I have hardly had any success at all in alleviating my anxiety, depression, or my moderate substance abuse through the use of the LBRP or any magick at all!

Any similar experiences? Advice, theories, etc?

not racist or even sexist lol - the concept of 'the man' keeping us down goes way back to anytime there was someone looking to keep power for themselves and their slaves under control - we are slaves, not to a pile of paper known as money, or 1's and 0's in some computer file, but to the man, and produce according to the man's whip - the man is supposedly responsible for us and our economy, and really we not expendable for the man depends on us to produce so the man can cream off our production - even our ability to produce, aka credit, is leveraged by the man for the man's benefit, and inability to pay results in loss of privileges, and even further slavery, again, not to some plastic card or a pile of paper, but to the man - i think of the man more as a freddy kreuger puppeteer than some rich white dude- i suppose one could substitute 'elites' instead of 'the man', but i remember the gray panthers, and how they stuck it to the man, and it is in their honor that i use the term

to finish the thought - the man isn't responsible for your biochemistry, i suppose that ultimately, you are responsible for it? - interesting thought - if i need to use glasses, and i do, is that giving in or adapting? - if i need real doctor-type meds to control something, is taking them a cop-out to my magickal beliefs that i can chnage myself? - i remember something on 60 minutes or something years ago, where a bunch of religious leaders in some cult or other quit wearing their glasses as a statement that they belived fully in the ability of their god to heal them of the need for glasses - truly a quandary! - i suppose it comes down to belief, as long as you weren't in the desert island scenario where you have no choice but to go for magick as there is no doctor available - "do i endanger myself by not taking meds, or do i have belief enough in my magickal abilities to make it work?" - i'm thinking more like: "would you use magick to cover a wound, or just use a band-aid?" - "physician, heal thyself" also comes to mind, but in this case its "magician, heal thyself" - interesting, i will have to thing more on this - a nice koan, thanks!

of course the proper method is to take the doctor meds until get it fixed magically enough to survive without them - it is the sensible thing to do as magick has so many variables and the the little pills have those variables minimized by removing the uncertainties, and it gives you time to fix it magically - te be content with taking the meds is the greater error, imo

man oh man, your post is bringing the insights and thoughtforms hard and fast - and what is the difference between the 'science' that the doctor uses to formulate his little pills, and 'magick', is it some sort of 'understanding'? - and how do they decide what goes in the little pills? - are they just refomulated and repackaged herbs? - would the ancient barber-doctor practice of bleeding from the left or right sides of the body be 'science' or 'magick'? - is a ritual, a form of 'science' or 'magick?' - wow, chock full of good things to ponder while holding stones and sitting silenlty surrounded by smoking herbs lol - is there really such a thing as substance abuse since we are substance, and what defines 'abuse' of what substance? - oh what a wonderful thing the human mind is! - is it abuse if one abuses salt? - sugar? - vegtable oil? - hypgnosis? - why?

its good to get 'out there' every so often, and look around at what humans call life - , i guess i've been abusing the awareness of the void, and lost my humanity again,

es

This post has been edited by esoterica: Sep 10 2008, 07:42 AM