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cassiopeia
post Sep 6 2008, 11:31 AM
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Over the years I seem to have gotten fairly good at using magick to bring about favourable circumstances in my life. Jobs, money, partners, etc. Nothing spectacular, my results could be written off as coincidences but once you get a certain amount of "coincidences" you start to realise that perhaps they aren't really coincidences... But, as a sufferer of mild anxiety and depression, I have often tried to use magick to influence my internal climate, with very little success.

Lately I have been using my daily practice of the LBRP to influence my life. When invoking the archangels, I will talk to them and ask them to grant me small favours... The results have been quite impressive when it comes to external events (one example of many is that I had problems with my feelings for a workmate. It was problematic because I had a boyfriend, and the situation had been bad for quite some time. I asked the archangels for help, and the very same day, he got fired! Which isn't as bad as it sounds for him as he was getting quite tired of wokring there anyway, and from conversations I had with him afterwards it seemed that him getting fired - or rather, being asked to resign, but with good references - had worked out in his favour. This is just one example fo the "coincidences" I've had). Yet I have hardly had any success at all in alleviating my anxiety, depression, or my moderate substance abuse through the use of the LBRP or any magick at all!

Any similar experiences? Advice, theories, etc?


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post Sep 14 2008, 08:25 PM
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Ok. I'm new here. This is my first post. My main focus is chaos magic although I have decades background in eastern mysticism. I am a medical writer and editor (and also have a past history of depression and anxiety disorder). Chronic depression and anxiety can be related to oppressive things that are going on in your life but they also are neurochemical problems. Both my magick and all of my training in meditation and yogic disciplines have been geared toward establishing internal change to modify external events. There certainly are thought-transformation techniques that can help you overcome anxiety and depression--but if the condition is long-standing, persons often need more help than do-it-yourself stuff, which can end up being detrimental because you keep putting off getting real help. Rather than trying to figure out how to magically alleviate your mood disorder --which is admittedly causing you to self-medicate through substance abuse--you need to speak to a doctor and perhaps a mental health counselor. A doctor might give you medication for anxiety and depression--or at least give you a thorough exam to figure out if there is physical reason for why you feel the way you do. A mental health counselor will probably 1) suggest that you take medication for a short term . This isn't meant to "zombify" or "control" you; it is meant to help correct the messed up brain chemistry that prolonged states of depression and anxiety cause. 2) provide cognitive and behavioral therapy so that you can better understand what is going on in your interpersonal interactions that might be contributing to your mood and help you behave more effectively (and actually force the people around you to change in reaction to the change in you.) I myself did not take medication for my anxiety disorder although it was severe. It took a very long time to get over the physical symptoms that anxiety disorder can cause. I was in therapy and then began to practice in a highly aerobic, rigorous, type of yoga that mostly focused on strengthening the lymphatic and nervous system. and I benefitted greatly from it. That all took place over 10 years ago. As for magic, I mostly work with sigils and astral journeying, but I myself would never recommend that you create a sigil or perform some magical ritual instead of getting professional medical help.


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