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bumdhar
post May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
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I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, enlightenment, as well as daily peace and meaning. I have practiced and studied several spiritual paths, and found this one to be quite right for me. However, have been having doubts lately as to whether these goals can be attained through the Western Mystical Tradition. I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Golden Dawn or any other Western Mystical path has attained anything akin to samadhi, or enlightenment, or if it's all just a sham.

I acknowledge that using these rituals and overall philosophy can induce brain change. I know my brain has changed since I started. Yet what is the end result? I read books by Crowley and Regardie, yet what was the result of their Work?

I just wanted to know what other people think. Does anybody else have any thoughts?

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post Oct 5 2008, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(bumdhar @ May 31 2007, 09:58 AM) *

I just wanted to know what other people think. Does anybody else have any thoughts?


The single main thing for me is to die in a state that's hopefully better than the state I was born in, developmentally; basically to learn. Part of that is Uncle Al's Great Work, but part of it is other stuff as well. I at least try to be more theurgically inclined rather than leaning in the direction of base sorcery. Spell tossing might be fun, but about all it really does for you in developmental terms is reinforce the knowledge that the atheistic view of reality is BS. (Although that in itself is important)

Part of it is also an identity/temperament thing, in my mind. Not everyone is a magician, but the people here are; magic is what we do, in the same sense as birds fly or fish swim. As Darkmage said once, it's a way of life.

Evocation specifically in my mind serves three purposes:-

a) To gradually establish very firmly in your head that there isn't a spoon. (Which goes back to the Great Work)
b) To serve the same purpose as other dangerous sports like skydiving or bungee jumping. (Building courage and thrillseeking, which some of us need)

c) To Get Stuff.<tm> "Stuff" in this context is defined as anything more primarily related to the physical world; money, a new house, etc, but is also defined as paranormal abilities which are primarily useful within a real-world context. (Pyrokinesis, breathing underwater, talking to animals, instinctive knowledge of machinery, and the various other cool things that the Goetics can supposedly teach you to do)

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bumdhar   What Do You Think The Purpose Of Magick Is?   May 30 2007, 05:58 PM
Acid09   Brain changes. Opening the doors of Concsious perc...   May 30 2007, 06:02 PM
Darkmage   For me it's another tool in the box to help ma...   May 30 2007, 06:40 PM
bumdhar   I agree that any practice should be applicable to ...   May 31 2007, 05:52 AM
Frater Yechidah   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Jun 15 2007, 05:56 PM
bumdhar   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Jun 15 2007, 06:21 PM
Xenomancer   It's no problem to reach the pinnacle, or enli...   Jun 16 2007, 07:23 AM
bumdhar   That's cool. What you were saying brought to...   Jun 16 2007, 09:11 AM
The Sorceress   I am wondering if anyone practicing Thelema or Gol...   Jul 2 2007, 01:19 PM
Frater V.V.L   To Know Yourself, and Understand.   Mar 1 2008, 08:05 AM
JDAndrews   To know ourselves and the world, and to change our...   Mar 4 2008, 08:54 AM
IAO131   I guess I came to Magick trying to find Gnosis, en...   May 19 2008, 11:05 PM
Bird of Hermes   The goal of magick in my mind is the accomplishmen...   May 25 2008, 10:29 PM
esoterica   "the whole purpose of magick is to help you r...   May 26 2008, 07:56 AM
Umbra Euri   Quoting Peter H. Gilmore "Techniques meant as...   May 28 2008, 07:49 PM
Matthew Kelly   Ah, I see IAO131 has made it here as well - glad t...   Jun 26 2008, 07:47 PM
Xenomancer   Magick is meant to be like a laxative when there i...   Aug 29 2008, 09:42 PM
Lucifer   To change The World :)   Sep 30 2008, 06:28 AM
bumdhar   Change your SELF and you change the World! :bl...   Oct 4 2008, 08:14 PM
realm_crawler   Well as i feel compelled to share my view on this....   Oct 12 2008, 11:18 AM

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