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I am a black Catholic that sees the world in a different perspective. Ever since I was a little boy I hated going to church. I would always fall asleep on my mom's shoulder. Since I am older I am a altar server because of my parents different faiths. My mom's Baptist and my dad is Catholic. My mom's philosophy is to take initiative and my dad is as a man you must have responsibility. Those philsophies are true because it shows that you care for life. Ever since growing up I got this feeling that I have purpose to save this world. I know this sounds crazy but to me when you look at government, religion, and money they must be destroyed. The religious leaders of the world want to unite all the religions as one. To me this F@#$king crazy. The Vatican especially must pay for their ignorance and corrupt behavior for mankind's suffering. I'm sick and tired of the people of this planet fighting each other over president's, religious issues, race, and especially money. Now as a black man I do respect that Barack Obama will be to me symbolically a wave for change. But to me since he is with politics and politicians can't change a thing. He must show to me a sign for change and that must start for this country.
Without the fire of conflict and the anvil of social structure, the iron of the human spirit cannot be tempered into the steel it needs to become. Before we can change anything in the world, we must first rise above the world we want to change. This is an application of hermetic law:
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"The Hermetic Masters long since discovered that while the Principle of Rhythm was invariable, and ever in evidence in mental phenomena, still there were two planes of its manifestation so far as mental phenomena are concerned. They discovered that there were two general planes of Consciousness, the Lower and the Higher, the understanding of which fact enabled them to rise to the higher plane and thus escape the swing of the Rhythmic pendulum which manifested on the lower plane. In other words, the swing of the pendulum occurred on the Unconscious Plane, and the Consciousness was not affected. This they call the Law of Neutralization. Its operations consist in the raising of the Ego above the vibrations of the Unconscious Plane of mental activity, so that the negative-swing of the pendulum is not manifested in consciousness, and therefore they are not affected."
~The Kybalion
The waves of conflict, of stasis and change, of good and evil, of war and peace, of tolerance and intolerance, are manifestations of the Principle of Rhythm. This principle operates in the unconscious plane - that 'group' consciousness of the nation or the world. As long as we are a part of that unconscious, as long as we are simply exist inside that current we are subject to that Principle in operation. It is only when we rise above that 'unconscious' and become truly Conscious individuals, free from the conditioning and arbitrary restrictions of the mass unconscious, are we able to truly evaluate our relationship to that mass populace and it's workings, and take appropriate measures to push the pendulum in a better direction.
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For Shaman and Spiritual Satanists(Answer Please):
Is the movement that you're in can help society or create chaos?
Do you both believe in the higher self and Solomon's practice of the occults?
Any tradition that supports the ascension of the individual to a fully conscious being ultimately benefits society, as these are the individuals able to maintain true dignity, compassion, understanding, and wisdom in the face of the chaotic, unerringly rhythmic pattern that ultimately must repeat itself endlessly until those of this higher level of consciousness can either exercise the necessary force and wisdom to change it, or assist the rest of the population in their own ascension. Equally true however is that those individual who win their true consciousness may also instigate chaos and keep the rest of the population mired in that unconscious state, for many reasons, one of which is power.
Neither of these traditions is directly related to or involved in Solomon's occult tradition.
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Freewill vs. Laws of Man.
Since laws creates problems instead of solving them should we as a society roam around doing whatever we want. Meaning issues concerning rape and killing. For example: If I was going to go out and to kill somebody for sport and to sexually abuse a woman for the sake of I can do it. Is there anything in the afterlife that is spiritual damnation?
Does good and evil exist in freewill or is that these 2 words that we fed to us by adults corrupt our mental intellect?
Laws do not create problems. This is a very subjective statement, no offense, typical of your demographic. There is no certain answer to what happens in the afterlife - however, until all of humanity is fully conscious, law is necessary to maintain at least the framework of conditions conducive to that ascension. Without law, those that must be controlled through fear of punishment, are free to prevent others from attaining to ascension and consciousness.
If you believe in no afterlife, you may at least believe in cause and effect. If you rape and kill without remorse, you will mire yourself in hate, anger, fear, greed, and ultimately live an unfulfilled and lonely existence. You will not die happy, and if anything has to do with what happens in whatever afterlife there is, that will probably affect it negatively.
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Supposedly, In 2012 the Sun will go out and there will exist only darkness? If there exists only but darkness by then. How are we going to see in the morning? More importantly what is going to truly happen on December 21, 2012?
I ask a personal question for Satanists, Do you guys are in coalition witht the ignorant Illuminati family who has the utmost odescity to think they can take human beings rights?
For the Shaman's: Is man and woman affect the world around them today by their thoughts. Does truly the pulsing energy of our thoughts manifest in to reality?
I never heard anything about the sun going out - I wonder where you heard it?
Next, I seriously doubt all satanists are in league with the illuminati, if there is such an organization. If you don't give them up, no one can take away you rights, your freedoms. If you do give them up, it's no one's fault but your own, and you aren't ready for them.
The average person's thoughts only affect their own sphere of existence, and any others by proxy. It is not so far a stretch to think, though. If you dwell on depressing thoughts, you become mired in depression, you act out because of that internal drama, it affects your life, you become convinced that you are the depression - that is you identify with it - you become convinced that you are deserving of it, and then push others away, surround yourself with those that share your depression perhaps, and ultimately give up everything to it. Your thoughts affected your actions, your actions affected your reality.
Greater thoughts affect a greater degree of reality. This is not just psychology, but a matter of the role of idealism, faith, and true compassionate thought in the greater picture of things. Magic is a part of it, but ultimately more a science of understanding the laws which govern our reality - because it is by the application of these laws that we are able to lead those greater thoughts into manifestation.
It isn't all just wands and pentacles for peace. These tools are the means by which we explore our consciousness, and ultimately ascend into full consciousness if we take it that far - the real magic is of far greater import, and has greater reach and consequence; the application of the 'true wisdom' we find when we follow our path to completion and start on a new one.
peace
Spiritual Satanism And Shamanism, Do you represent freedom or chaos?
asimon2008 Spiritual Satanism And Shamanism Nov 4 2008, 10:42 PM
Nov 4 2008, 10:42 PM
