Spiritual Satanism And Shamanism, Do you represent freedom or chaos? Options

I am a black Catholic that sees the world in a different perspective. Ever since I was a little boy I hated going to church. I would always fall asleep on my mom's shoulder. Since I am older I am a altar server because of my parents different faiths. My mom's Baptist and my dad is Catholic. My mom's philosophy is to take initiative and my dad is as a man you must have responsibility. Those philsophies are true because it shows that you care for life. Ever since growing up I got this feeling that I have purpose to save this world. I know this sounds crazy but to me when you look at government, religion, and money they must be destroyed. The religious leaders of the world want to unite all the religions as one. To me this F@#$king crazy. The Vatican especially must pay for their ignorance and corrupt behavior for mankind's suffering. I'm sick and tired of the people of this planet fighting each other over president's, religious issues, race, and especially money. Now as a black man I do respect that Barack Obama will be to me symbolically a wave for change. But to me since he is with politics and politicians can't change a thing. He must show to me a sign for change and that must start for this country.

For Shaman and Spiritual Satanists(Answer Please):

Is the movement that you're in can help society or create chaos?

Do you both believe in the higher self and Solomon's practice of the occults?

Freewill vs. Laws of Man.
Since laws creates problems instead of solving them should we as a society roam around doing whatever we want. Meaning issues concerning rape and killing. For example: If I was going to go out and to kill somebody for sport and to sexually abuse a woman for the sake of I can do it. Is there anything in the afterlife that is spiritual damnation?
Does good and evil exist in freewill or is that these 2 words that we fed to us by adults corrupt our mental intellect?

Supposedly, In 2012 the Sun will go out and there will exist only darkness? If there exists only but darkness by then. How are we going to see in the morning? More importantly what is going to truly happen on December 21, 2012?

I ask a personal question for Satanists, Do you guys are in coalition witht the ignorant Illuminati family who has the utmost odescity to think they can take human beings rights?

For the Shaman's: Is man and woman affect the world around them today by their thoughts. Does truly the pulsing energy of our thoughts manifest in to reality?

I'm GOing to say this for being funny but, OBAMA's PRESIDENT B@&%^. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh

P.S. He still to me and the rest that he must show change.

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Thanks for the info. But the first Zeitgeist movie you're right but the 2nd movie is totally the truth. Their are cases in our system that shows that our government have been lying to us. I found the court case files in the second movie of Zeitgeist: addendum where Jerome Daly(a lawyer) went to court against the First Bank of Montgomery because he stop paying his bills for his mortgage. Jerome Daly and the bank had to give out a had to give consideration for the mortgage. Jerome proved however the bank did not have legitimate reason for the mortgage because the money that we used in America is counterfeit. We all know on a dollar bill it says legal tender on it well it shocked me on finding out how worthless it is. The dollar bill we have is equal to literall shit.

The internation bankers( Illuminati families)::

•Rothschild (Bauer or Bower) - Pindar

•Bruce

•Cavendish (Kennedy)

•De Medici

•Hanover

•Hapsburg

•Krupp

•Plantagenet

•Rockefeller

•Romanov

•Sinclair (St. Clair)

•Warburg (del Banco)

•Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gothe)


These families are true reason why their homeless people, people commiting murder, rape and all other sorts. The systems of capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism are all the same because they have a monetary system. It explains it in the movie how they are the same. If anyone hasn't seen Zeitgeist 2 here is the website:http://www.freewebs.com/redx1/apps/videos/videos/view/1037606-zeitgeist-2-addendum

Go to this website for the Credit river files:http://www.lawlibrary.state.mn.us/CreditRiver/CreditRiver.html

The question still remains the same: WHAT IS THE SECRET NAME OF GOD THAT OUR ANCESTOR LILITH SAID?


This post has been edited by asimon2008: Nov 8 2008, 03:44 PM

Every wealthy family has been accused to being associated with the illuminati. The honest fact of the matter, however, is that who is or is not, and whether there is such an organization, is of zero consequence to you, unless you intend to do something about it, and then you should have your facts straight and make sure that there is no mistake - based on your own research and findings, not based on gut instinct or documentaries or anything like that (if they're as powerful as they are supposed to be, you can be certain whatever you did learn from a paper, a documentary, etc., is misinformation anyway) - because otherwise you don't know what you're getting yourself into, and can't be certain that effective or not your actions are worth anything. In any case, the journey begins with you yourself, not with these elite families.

The question still remains the same: WHAT IS THE SECRET NAME OF GOD THAT OUR ANCESTOR LILITH SAID?

If it's a secret, what makes you think anyone here knows - and if we did know, what makes you think we would post the secret name of God here on the forum. Did you ever think that it might be secret so that you have to go through the journey of discovering it to learn what it is? If you'd done any research, you'd have learned at least that it is unpronouncable.

I'll give you a hint - that doesn't mean that you aren't supposed to say it. It means, just like the word implies, that it cannot be pronounced.

There is also no evidence to support that lillith was our ancestor. That's more conspiracy theorist jargon drawn from misinterpretation of the source texts, in the effort to prove a conspiracy - in the case of the lillith stuff, usually one involving aliens, or at least demonic overlords.


Buddy, I can appreciate all these questions and the need to make sense of the world, but like Xenomancer said, you won't know until you do it. There's no short cut, there's no one who can, or at least will, give you the answers you're looking for free and clear. You clearly don't even know who you are yet, so worrying about making sense of the rest of the world is pointless at this stage of your journey. Focus on your Self for now is my final word of advice here - until you sort yourself out and have explored who you really are, will you ever be able to begin to unravel the rest of the world's mysteries.

peace