Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 How Does One Become A Extremely Talented Magician?, Magicians
Shogunronin
post Dec 23 2008, 07:03 AM
Post #1


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 66
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: United Kingdom
Reputation: none




If someone wanted to become a extremely talented magician how would he go about it? Is 'talent' in the arts an aft form or can it be achieved through hard work and dedication? I believe my current magikal skill and ability is very limited as I have only done a few servitor magik rituals. I want to be very honest here and say I am extremely critical of magik and if it even exists. I have contemplated dedicating a entire life to this and gaining incredible skills but I just need to know it's real so that I know it is not a life wasted. I feel in myself I have been ignored by every entity that is out there as I have never had a run in with one and feel kind of helpless.
I have a question that goes out to the most respected on this forum in that if you were to start from the beggining where would you start to get the fastest results possible? my interests lie in evoking entities and servitor/egregore magik. Alot of my ideas in the past have been a little crazy but I really want to do this the right way and you can be sure your advice will be followed to the roots. Any tips?

Thank you and happy holidays.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Dreamer
post Dec 28 2008, 05:24 AM
Post #2


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 35
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




The general traits that I believe a magician must possess and weren't mentioned are:

To be able and silence the mind at will.
To maximize the ability to visualize. Visualizations must be extremely clear, and it must be the only thing within the mind of the magician while performing the ritual.
To be flexible within the ritual (i.e. adapting correct pronouciation, movement, etc).
Generally, to be able to direct and focus the five senses in the steps of the ritual, the area, the incense, the robes and their significance, the result, etc.

And I want to make clear that when I'm talking about visualization, I'm not referring only to the creation of some plain images, but of things that can be perceived and also felt from all the senses.


--------------------
"We shall dive down through black abysses...
and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever"


H.P.Lovecraft

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Agni
post Jan 15 2009, 09:17 PM
Post #3


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 22
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




QUOTE(Dreamer @ Dec 28 2008, 01:24 PM) *

The general traits that I believe a magician must possess and weren't mentioned are:

To be able and silence the mind at will.
To maximize the ability to visualize. Visualizations must be extremely clear, and it must be the only thing within the mind of the magician while performing the ritual.
To be flexible within the ritual (i.e. adapting correct pronouciation, movement, etc).
Generally, to be able to direct and focus the five senses in the steps of the ritual, the area, the incense, the robes and their significance, the result, etc.

And I want to make clear that when I'm talking about visualization, I'm not referring only to the creation of some plain images, but of things that can be perceived and also felt from all the senses.


After 9 years of magical work (I started with Modern Magick and Initiation Into Hermetics) I'm glad that I have all these points covered (in my personal - and probably biased opinion (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)) , however I'm afraid a moderate mental adepthood isn't enough if one wants to become an extremely talented magician.

One crucial point is to not become swayed by mundane life. If you have been doing the LBRP and MP once a day in a hurry in order to spare more time for playing WOW or whatever; uninstall WOW and start doing LBRP, LBRP, RC, MP and also SIRP (on another time) each day. Include skrying or meditation where you used to have browsing 4chan.

You don't think an excellent martial artist only shadow boxes five mins a day and sits on his ass the rest of the day, do you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I admit I don't always practice like I preach, but I believe - like others have said in this thread - that the only way to become better is by practicing more.

This post has been edited by Agni: Jan 15 2009, 09:17 PM

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Agni
post Jan 16 2009, 12:28 PM
Post #4


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 22
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




Hmm.. Somehow my post doesn't make as much sense as I intended last night. Well here's one more thought; IMHO it's a good idea to aim for practical results early on, i.e. when you are comfortable with Middle Pillar (check out Regardie's How To Make and Use Talismans, there's a torrent of it around), why not use it to charge a talisman..

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


Posts in this topic
Shogunronin   How Does One Become A Extremely Talented Magician?   Dec 23 2008, 07:03 AM
al_zaine   Hey there. First of all, i'm not one of those ...   Dec 23 2008, 09:56 AM
Imperial Arts   If someone wanted to become a extremely talented ...   Dec 23 2008, 10:05 AM
Aphrodite   My advice for becoming a talented and powerful mag...   Dec 23 2008, 09:25 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   The same way you become excellent at anything else...   Dec 24 2008, 08:01 AM
Shogunronin   I just want to say thank you alot for all of you...   Dec 26 2008, 07:48 PM
The Sorceress   We are talking about spiritual, transdimensional b...   Dec 27 2008, 03:30 PM
zyguh   Buy Intitiation Into Hermetics. Read the entire b...   Feb 2 2009, 01:40 AM
Wiggs1992   Buy Intitiation Into Hermetics. Read the entire ...   Feb 19 2009, 08:59 PM
esoterica   worth a grab and a thorough read through, regardle...   Feb 23 2009, 11:15 AM
flyingmojo   I would say that any magician who devotes him/hers...   Feb 24 2009, 03:30 PM
Kath   If you're not sure that magick is even real, t...   Oct 14 2009, 08:26 AM
Xenomancer   Unless that is the very issue you wish to teach t...   Oct 14 2009, 11:37 AM
xXDaemonReignXx   Amen Brother.   Oct 14 2009, 02:10 PM
Nes   Hello everyone. This is my first post. I am glad t...   Nov 27 2009, 08:23 PM

Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

4 User(s) are reading this topic (4 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th November 2024 - 07:47 AM