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davisxmonster
post Jan 6 2009, 09:24 PM
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I always thought i was good at sensing ki, (I dont see it, i dont hear it, i just have a sense that it is there) I guess im not

And i was trying to move a pencil as a mental exersize.

at first i tried a zero point technique, got nowhere.
I heard you can switch on your astral senses by flipping a switch in your mind. i dont think it worked.
then i tried a bit of empathy with the pencil, felt it with my mind, then i started to notice visual distortions, dont think its magical energy (You know when its dark and you space out for a while and then you see a bunch of flashing specks in the air and everything has a thin outline?)
Then i tried telling it to move with my mind
then yelling at it to move with my mind
pushing it with my mind.

I dont know how this is relevant to my question other than as an example of where im at.

but what are the best ki/energy control meditations/ exercises?

Ive been doing the middle pillar and circulation of light almost daily (The light goes in your crown energy center.)
and i used to do chakra meditations (The energy goes up your base center, different no?)

but i dont know if ive gotten anywhere?

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post Jan 28 2009, 07:28 PM
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i was doing a chakra ritual just now and i noticed something.

When i focus my ki to make a psi ball or something, i dont get any effect or really even sense the ki extremely well, so i decided i would start doing a daily high concentration chakra meditation.

First i sense it going into all the chakras and i try to feel it moving up my body as much as possible, and when it passes a center, i imagine that center expanding greatly, and when it gets to my forehead i focus on my mind and perception, and percieving will, and as it gets to my head i focus on feeling my connection with the divine.

however when it got to the forehead, my concentration was actually LOWERING GREATLY, and partially through my crown i felt like falling asleep right there. it was sort of a meditative state.

i hope that by doing this my astral senses will improve along with control of my ki, how does it sound?

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post Jan 28 2009, 09:56 PM
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What other meditation exercises have you practiced, and how many of them have you mastered?

Here is a common theme I personally see often, I suspect it has always been this way, a simple manifestation of human nature; that one moves from technique to technique, continually seeking something that can give them results. They inquire to everyone who may know, "What is a better technique? How can I get the results I want?"

Meditation is a funny thing. Meditation, is meditation, is meditation. All of our minds work at different rates, on different levels, and require a different method of reaching a point of stillness. However, 90% of all difficult in meditation lies not in the technique itself, but in the perseverance of the individual practicing the technique.

If you want to develop 'quickly' then begin at the beginning, and stay there as long as it takes. Frequently we find that the beginning is more advanced than we are led to believe.

The work you are talking about is energy work, not meditation. Meditation is sitting still and waiting for gnosis, enlightenment, the "Aha!" moment. Meditation is concentration. I am myself as responsible as anyone else for confusing the issue by calling such exercises as you have mentioned here 'meditation exercises', because this is a word we use as a kind of blanket term. Generalizing, i feel, ultimately does us harm when it then comes time to discuss the nature of the various routines. Energy work, for instance, should follow meditation - both in terms of the stages of development, as well as in practice. Meditate first, then do energy work. One day you will live in meditation, if you so choose to take it that far, and then you will meditate before you do anything, and as you do anything. But that may be some time.

In the mean time, I would advise, mastering simple concentration. You say that your mind begins to wander when you reach the brow area. This may just as well be because that is the temporal limit of your concentration, or there may be another cause - until you master concentration, there is no way to know.

If the mind is chaotic internally, how can we know the nature of that which might disturb it from without? If we cannot master concentration, how will we know the difference between a wandering mind, and the spontaneous eruption of insight? It is after a fashion separating the wheat from the chaff, if you like. Becoming aware of our psychic potential is, at first, like trying to hear a pin drop in the middle of rush hour traffic, or an air raid. The answer is not to discover how to hear better, the answer is to find a place where there is less noise.

Using your energy to do anything externally, must be preceded by learning to condense your energy, and before that learning to control your energy, and before that you must learn to be aware of your energy, and before that you must learn to concentrate and be still inside. If you cannot master each stage in its turn, you will only ever achieve the same basic level of ability that a person is born with - we move and exchange energy all the time. You do it when you express your emotions, when you change the subject of a conversation, when you repaint your bedroom, etc. The energy work you are describing is probably moving energy - however, when you are sufficiently developed, you will know the difference between moving the kind of energy you are moving now, and moving 'big' energy, for lack of a better descriptor. Just because energy is moving, does not mean that enough energy is moving.

No amount of tutorial will introduce you to a technique that is going to give you the kind of control and focus, and ultimately ability, that you want. Psipog's tutorials are not worth the bytes they're composed of. A lot of theory, some wild advice on visualization, but no substance to enact any of it. If you don't know how energy works, and you don't understand the nature of the mind, then you won't get where you want to go.

Learn more about the nature of attention, intention, willpower, focus, and concentration. Focus first on mastering concentration. The other things you have written and shared with us all here, suggests that willpower and concentration are not things that you have sufficiently developed.

That is my advice. Perhaps others will disagree.

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davisxmonster   Ki Exersizes   Jan 6 2009, 09:24 PM
davisxmonster   well? What are the best energy exercises? There a...   Jan 8 2009, 09:24 PM
MasterOfMagick   Have you been to psipog.net? they got some articl...   Jan 15 2009, 05:37 PM
altpath   Just because you can't move a pencil don't...   Jan 15 2009, 08:46 PM
davisxmonster   You say i must focus on sensing ki and being able ...   Jan 29 2009, 05:32 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   You say i must focus on sensing ki and being able...   Jan 29 2009, 11:54 PM
davisxmonster   so you are saying to do the "basic" medi...   Jan 30 2009, 04:33 PM
davisxmonster   sorry for the double post but i just cant concentr...   Feb 1 2009, 07:39 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Yeah, that's what its like when you first star...   Feb 1 2009, 07:58 PM
davisxmonster   ive discovered that i get much more proficient res...   Feb 2 2009, 08:20 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   The point is not to keep your eyes on the dot. The...   Feb 2 2009, 09:16 PM
davisxmonster   Ahg, I take it back! Its not easy! Its e...   Feb 2 2009, 09:38 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   You're not doing anything wrong, you're ju...   Feb 3 2009, 12:17 PM
davisxmonster   When i clear my mind you say that time ceases to e...   Feb 8 2009, 08:21 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   When i clear my mind you say that time ceases to ...   Feb 9 2009, 02:18 PM
davisxmonster   I THOUGHT WILLPOWER WAS WHAT MEDITATION WAS FOR...   Feb 15 2009, 08:19 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   There is no automatic exercise which will give you...   Feb 16 2009, 01:19 AM
esoterica   I always thought i was good at sensing ki, (I don...   Feb 9 2009, 09:13 AM
Wiggs1992   I just wanted to throw it out there, being around ...   Feb 21 2009, 04:14 PM
davisxmonster   Thank you for your post. you seem to be a beginne...   Feb 22 2009, 04:00 PM
Wiggs1992   Practicing seriously with an intent to get bette...   Feb 22 2009, 11:49 PM

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