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davisxmonster
post Jan 6 2009, 09:24 PM
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I always thought i was good at sensing ki, (I dont see it, i dont hear it, i just have a sense that it is there) I guess im not

And i was trying to move a pencil as a mental exersize.

at first i tried a zero point technique, got nowhere.
I heard you can switch on your astral senses by flipping a switch in your mind. i dont think it worked.
then i tried a bit of empathy with the pencil, felt it with my mind, then i started to notice visual distortions, dont think its magical energy (You know when its dark and you space out for a while and then you see a bunch of flashing specks in the air and everything has a thin outline?)
Then i tried telling it to move with my mind
then yelling at it to move with my mind
pushing it with my mind.

I dont know how this is relevant to my question other than as an example of where im at.

but what are the best ki/energy control meditations/ exercises?

Ive been doing the middle pillar and circulation of light almost daily (The light goes in your crown energy center.)
and i used to do chakra meditations (The energy goes up your base center, different no?)

but i dont know if ive gotten anywhere?

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post Feb 1 2009, 07:39 PM
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sorry for the double post but i just cant concentrate enough to find the edit button right now... or maybe its not there.

anyways, i cant seem to get it right.

I tried the sit and not think method... and that fails miserabley, i cant even reach the medatative state for one second. or even a moment.

I tried to sit and stare at a wall for a few minutes and i failed miserabley. i reached the state for an instant but that is all.

now my head feels like it was stretched beyond its limits and i cant even think correctly, and all i did was focus on a dot for an instant. pathetic.

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post Feb 1 2009, 07:58 PM
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Yeah, that's what its like when you first start out. Set yourself a timer, say one minute, and continue to try for that whole minute. Record your results I suggest, but even if you don't that's also fine. After that minute is up, no longer think about your practice, do not judge yourself in any way, simply do it. You may practice more than once a day, preferably at regular and repeatable times.

When i first tried to quiet my mind completely, I could not do it either. It took several months for me to be able to do it (or, 'not-do' it) for even ten seconds because I would get distracted by some other interesting practice or book and forget to practice for a week at a time. It's taken years to be able to sit with a silent mind for more than 30 minutes, and I only recently am able to not go to sleep. I started trying first when i was 14. It has been ten years. If I had not been so distracted in that decade of exploration, it might only have taken two.

You are perfectly normal, you are not deficient in any way. Sit your @$$ down and practice, or you will still be complaining like this in ten years, or worse, you'll be another cog in the machine, dreaming of a time that you believed greater things were possible.

Here is an interesting story to contemplate:
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"Encho was a famous storyteller. His tales of love stirred the hearts of his listeners. When he narrated a story of war, it was as if the listeners themselves were in the field of battle.

One day Encho met Yamaoka Tesshu, a layman who had almost embraced masterhood of Zen. "I understand," said Yamaoka, "you are the best storyteller in our land and that you make people cry or laugh at will. Tell me my favorite story of the Peach Boy. When I was a little tot I used to sleep beside my mother, and she often related this legend. In the middle of the story I would fall asleep. Tell it to me just as my mother did."

Encho dared not attempt this. He requested time to study. Several months later he went to Yamaoka and said: "Please give me the opportunity to tell you the story."

"Some other day," answered Yamaoka.

Encho was keenly disappointed. He studied further and tried again. Yamaoka rejected him many times. When Encho would start to talk Yamaoka would stop him, saying: "You are not yet like my mother."

It took Encho five years to be able to tell Yamaoka the legend as his mother had told it to him.

In this way, Yamaoka imparted Zen to Encho."
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davisxmonster   Ki Exersizes   Jan 6 2009, 09:24 PM
davisxmonster   well? What are the best energy exercises? There a...   Jan 8 2009, 09:24 PM
MasterOfMagick   Have you been to psipog.net? they got some articl...   Jan 15 2009, 05:37 PM
altpath   Just because you can't move a pencil don't...   Jan 15 2009, 08:46 PM
davisxmonster   i was doing a chakra ritual just now and i noticed...   Jan 28 2009, 07:28 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   What other meditation exercises have you practiced...   Jan 28 2009, 09:56 PM
davisxmonster   You say i must focus on sensing ki and being able ...   Jan 29 2009, 05:32 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   You say i must focus on sensing ki and being able...   Jan 29 2009, 11:54 PM
davisxmonster   so you are saying to do the "basic" medi...   Jan 30 2009, 04:33 PM
davisxmonster   ive discovered that i get much more proficient res...   Feb 2 2009, 08:20 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   The point is not to keep your eyes on the dot. The...   Feb 2 2009, 09:16 PM
davisxmonster   Ahg, I take it back! Its not easy! Its e...   Feb 2 2009, 09:38 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   You're not doing anything wrong, you're ju...   Feb 3 2009, 12:17 PM
davisxmonster   When i clear my mind you say that time ceases to e...   Feb 8 2009, 08:21 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   When i clear my mind you say that time ceases to ...   Feb 9 2009, 02:18 PM
davisxmonster   I THOUGHT WILLPOWER WAS WHAT MEDITATION WAS FOR...   Feb 15 2009, 08:19 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   There is no automatic exercise which will give you...   Feb 16 2009, 01:19 AM
esoterica   I always thought i was good at sensing ki, (I don...   Feb 9 2009, 09:13 AM
Wiggs1992   I just wanted to throw it out there, being around ...   Feb 21 2009, 04:14 PM
davisxmonster   Thank you for your post. you seem to be a beginne...   Feb 22 2009, 04:00 PM
Wiggs1992   Practicing seriously with an intent to get bette...   Feb 22 2009, 11:49 PM

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