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Optimystic
post Jan 12 2009, 06:47 PM
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Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu for awhile. My friends and I shut him up in the Bottomless Pit with Divine Assistance, and the gods have promised that in return, a cure for AIDS is on the way. Please let the sleeping dog lie for the foreseeable future so that we can get this vital medicine out into the world. If you absolutely insist on working with him, use the ritual for communicating with a dead god (I think its in the Urilia text).

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.


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post Feb 12 2009, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(Optimystic @ Jan 12 2009, 04:47 PM) *

Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu for awhile. My friends and I shut him up in the Bottomless Pit with Divine Assistance, and the gods have promised that in return, a cure for AIDS is on the way. Please let the sleeping dog lie for the foreseeable future so that we can get this vital medicine out into the world. If you absolutely insist on working with him, use the ritual for communicating with a dead god (I think its in the Urilia text).

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.


Nice work!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/02/11/health.hiv.stemcell/

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post Feb 12 2009, 04:49 AM
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While promising, the treatment is unlikely to help the vast majority of people infected with HIV, said Dr. Jay Levy, a professor at the University of California San Francisco, who wrote an editorial accompanying the study. A stem cell transplant is too extreme and too dangerous to be used as a routine treatment, he said.


This is a surprising occurrence, but not one that is entirely new. And don't forget...

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"About a third of the people die [during such transplants], so it's just too much of a risk," Levy said.


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Researchers including Hutter agree that the technique should not be used to treat HIV alone. "Some people may say, 'I want to do it,'" said Levy. A more logical -- and potentially safer -- approach would be to develop some type of CCR5-disabling gene therapy or treatment that could be directly injected into the body, said Levy.


I don't mean to make it seem like I personally want to poo poo on the possibility of a magical 'push' on this matter - but there have been dozens of cases of people remarkably cured of HIV in the past ten years or so which were documented and put on the books. However, it always seems to be by accident, as a side effect of other dangerous therapies, or in some such way that the cause of the cure is somehow indeterminable.

This is going to sound callous, but in my personal life, when I've done magic for some purpose, and the results seemed somehow warped - giving me what i want without really changing anything, including the source of the deficiency in the first place - I've found that often there's something I'm not looking at the right way. Sometimes I'm just not 'pushing the right buttons' as it were, and my approach is just inefficient, and sometimes there's something more going on that I could only call destined or cosmically ordained. I have to simply turn and face it, let it run its course, and recognize what this 'problem' really is, which so far is 100% of the time a very necessary period of change that simply had to happen, as part of a larger picture of what I in reality want my life to become. My evolution, if you will, directed by my own will no less. I've heard the same story from other people as well.

What I'm saying is, maybe we won't find a cure for HIV. Maybe we're not supposed to. Maybe some diseases are meant to test us as a species, and ultimately evolve us to be more resilient, more effective life forms. People are being born with various natural defenses against HIV infection. Mutations like that are the foundation of evolution. If those without the mutation are one day outnumbered by those who do have it, HIV may become a moot point.

If you want to engender the help of an entity to help 'find a cure' for HIV, consider another approach. Consider first of all entities that are 'alive and well' as it were in this day and age. Look for the modern Gods of mankind, the archetypal beings rather than their archaic names. Seek to inspire the intellect of man, instead of bashing away at the archetype of disease. You don't ever really overcome any enemy by force, but by cunning subversion - we don't need to defeat disease, we need to know more about how it works, we need more key discoveries.

I'm all for doing magic to rid the world of such deadly diseases, if it's cosmically ordained no amount of magic will change anything. Let's just take a moment to reconsider the nature of the problem and consider a solution that utilizes what we already have, rather than manifesting something from nothing.

Let's also keep our heads on our shoulders and be objective when evaluating results. This article is not at all a cure for HIV, and it doesn't claim to be - it says one man was mysteriously cured as a byproduct (possibly) of a therapy for leukemia. A therapy which has not conclusively worked yet, which is very dangerous (mortally dangerous), and cannot be performed on just anyone (requires a compatible donor with this specific gene which only about 1-3% of white [and hypothetically white-mixed] people of european descent have.) The odds don't favor a cure here. Another piece of the puzzle? Maybe.

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post Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Feb 12 2009, 09:49 PM) *

What I'm saying is, maybe we won't find a cure for HIV. Maybe we're not supposed to. Maybe some diseases are meant to test us as a species, and ultimately evolve us to be more resilient, more effective life forms. People are being born with various natural defenses against HIV infection. Mutations like that are the foundation of evolution. If those without the mutation are one day outnumbered by those who do have it, HIV may become a moot point.


I also personally tend to believe that society actually needs STDs, including lethal ones. They regulate what would otherwise be, in at least certain people, completely unrestrained sexual behaviour.

I'm not trying to be a prude here at all, but I'm inclined to believe that there are at least some people on the planet for whom STDs are their only incentive for any form of sexual moderation at all. I knew a homosexual man a number of years ago who had completely unrestrained, drug augmented orgies in his loungeroom on an almost nightly basis. He later died ostensibly due to a heroine overdose, but I would tend to see that as merely one side effect of a completely anarchic lifestyle...he went totally off the rails.

One of the things which Sri Ramakrishna, one of Kali's more famous devotees, wrote about, was that while (in simplistic terms) there were broadly two forms of worship, (one involving renunciation in a number of different forms, and the other involving various forms of excess, including sexual) the latter form, which he referred to as the heroic path, while potentially yielding much faster results, was exceptionally dangerous.

The homosexual man I mentioned earlier at times spoke about having adopted Ganesha as his God of choice. Ganesha is a deity who, according to some sources, is associated both with homosexuality, (someone else who knew this man said that earlier in his life, he had a girlfriend and exhibited signs of heterosexuality) and tantra as well. I'm inclined to believe, then, that this man used worship of Ganesh as license to engage in an extreme form of sexuality, and went too far as a result.

It makes me think, then, that entities like Pazuzu at times perform a vital ecological role, in terms of being disciplinarians, also such as Saturn. Pazuzu might really not be very nice, and we might not like him very much, but disease, in terms of sexuality, and the populations of both humans and animals, does work towards maintaining a balance...it takes all kinds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/respect.gif)

Although mind you, that's definitely not to suggest that I want him turning up in my bedroom in the middle of the night any time soon, either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_popeanim.gif)

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Optimystic   Pazuzu Is Out Of Commision For Awhile   Jan 12 2009, 06:47 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Although I am sure that in the work and this messa...   Jan 12 2009, 10:22 PM
Dancing Coyote   Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu fo...   Jan 27 2009, 06:08 PM
Petrus   You're so cute! I just want to squeeze yo...   Feb 6 2009, 11:29 AM
al_zaine   I've seen Pazuzu a number of times now, recent...   Feb 7 2009, 08:09 AM
Petrus   I've seen Pazuzu a number of times now, recen...   Feb 7 2009, 10:06 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Babylonians didn't make the film. To a christi...   Feb 7 2009, 02:11 PM
Petrus   Babylonians didn't make the film. To a christ...   Feb 10 2009, 06:04 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I'd certainly be interested to know exactly wh...   Feb 10 2009, 09:16 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I also personally tend to believe that society ac...   Feb 13 2009, 12:21 AM
Petrus   Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu fo...   Feb 12 2009, 11:21 PM
TheOneTrueFred   While posting the link in response to the OP might...   Feb 16 2009, 08:27 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I agree that it is on the way, but a cure is an in...   Feb 17 2009, 12:54 AM
Petrus   I agree that it is on the way, but a cure is an i...   Feb 17 2009, 02:54 AM

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