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Optimystic
post Jan 12 2009, 06:47 PM
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Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu for awhile. My friends and I shut him up in the Bottomless Pit with Divine Assistance, and the gods have promised that in return, a cure for AIDS is on the way. Please let the sleeping dog lie for the foreseeable future so that we can get this vital medicine out into the world. If you absolutely insist on working with him, use the ritual for communicating with a dead god (I think its in the Urilia text).

Thank you for your patience and cooperation.


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TheOneTrueFred
post Feb 16 2009, 08:27 PM
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While posting the link in response to the OP might have been a bit facetious on my part (timing - I stumbled across the thread almost immediately after reading the article), I do believe that this line of research is the most promising, and blatantly obvious path to eventually curing HIV, and probably a host of other ailments. Some of the most significant advances against disease in the modern age have come from exploiting immunities that developed in nature (the vaccine, the antibiotic). The goal of actually transferring an observed resistance from one person to another directly has the potential to be a much more fruitful endeavor than the multi-billion dollar boondoggle that the last few years of research have amounted to.

These guys weren't just in the right place and right time to do this, this seems to be the direction the research is going now that they've completely given up on a vaccine:http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/02/hivtreatment.html

The fact that its actually worked in one person, at least to the extent they can credibly say it has worked, is a major milestone for this research, and its come very early compared to other attempts. And to be fair to the OP, he did say the cure would just be "on the way." I'm confident it now is.

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post Feb 17 2009, 12:54 AM
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I agree that it is on the way, but a cure is an inevitability. We simply need the time to do the research and learn more about the subject matter. I cannot accept an inevitability to be proof of magical effect. If I do magic for rain and it begins raining the moment the final movement of the ritual is completed, then I can accept that as magical effect - if it rains one week later, I cannot accept that as magical effect, unless I asked for rain at that particular time.

The research mentioned in that article has been ongoing for two years, and is only just being reported because of these findings. The immunity has been known about for more years than that, although it is not a complete immunity - even people with both genes can still contract the rarer, less pandemic strains of HIV. Using stem cells in this manner has been on the table for a long time, however in the US at least, stem cell research is severely limited due to Christian preference on this soil.

So all that I am saying is, let's give appropriate credit where it is due, keep an objective view about magic that is balanced with our subjective experiences. Reason and Faith in balance - the holy grail as far as some people are concerned - is important with magical practice, otherwise we never learn what does and doesn't work, we overlook the reasonable answer for the magical one, and become egotistically inflated.

I'm not knocking your interest in the subject, I'm glad you stumbled upon that article, I might not personally have found it otherwise, and I agree that any success like that is a great milestone, and helps us learn more about the problem as a whole. But, I (and hopefully many others) have been following this issue closely for many years, and cures for diseases are the only things I give money to when I can. Every year, we find little pieces of the puzzle. I'm glad they found another one, but I don't believe that it has anything to do with this particular magical intention, except to the degree that all of our collective hope, prayer, meditation, and magic ultimately effects our development as a race as much as it may or may not.

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Optimystic   Pazuzu Is Out Of Commision For Awhile   Jan 12 2009, 06:47 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Although I am sure that in the work and this messa...   Jan 12 2009, 10:22 PM
Dancing Coyote   Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu fo...   Jan 27 2009, 06:08 PM
Petrus   You're so cute! I just want to squeeze yo...   Feb 6 2009, 11:29 AM
al_zaine   I've seen Pazuzu a number of times now, recent...   Feb 7 2009, 08:09 AM
Petrus   I've seen Pazuzu a number of times now, recen...   Feb 7 2009, 10:06 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Babylonians didn't make the film. To a christi...   Feb 7 2009, 02:11 PM
Petrus   Babylonians didn't make the film. To a christ...   Feb 10 2009, 06:04 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I'd certainly be interested to know exactly wh...   Feb 10 2009, 09:16 PM
TheOneTrueFred   Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu fo...   Feb 12 2009, 02:04 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   This is a surprising occurrence, but not one tha...   Feb 12 2009, 04:49 AM
Petrus   What I'm saying is, maybe we won't find a...   Feb 12 2009, 10:59 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I also personally tend to believe that society ac...   Feb 13 2009, 12:21 AM
Petrus   Please do not attempt to summon or call Pazuzu fo...   Feb 12 2009, 11:21 PM
Petrus   I agree that it is on the way, but a cure is an i...   Feb 17 2009, 02:54 AM

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