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post Mar 22 2005, 02:03 PM
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The worship of a mother goddess as the source of life and fertility has prehistoric roots, but the transformation of that deity into a Great goddess of cosmic powers was achieved with the composition of the Devi Mahatmya (Glory of the goddess), a text of the fifth to sixth century, when worship of the female principle took on dramatic new dimensions. The goddess is not only the mysterious source of life, she is the very soil, all-creating and all consuming.

Kali makes her 'official' debut in the Devi-Mahatmya, where she is said to have emanated from the brow of Goddess Durga (slayer of demons) during one of the battles between the divine and anti-divine forces. Etymologically Durga's name means "Beyond Reach". She is thus an echo of the woman warrior's fierce virginal autonomy. In this context Kali is considered the 'forceful' form of the great goddess Durga.

Kali is represented as a Black woman with four arms; in one hand she has a sword, in another the head of the demon she has slain, with the other two she is encouraging her worshippers. For earrings she has two dead bodies and wears a necklace of skulls ; her only clothing is a girdle made of dead men's hands, and her tongue protrudes from her mouth. Her eyes are red, and her face and breasts are besmeared with blood. She stands with one foot on the thigh, and another on the breast of her husband.

Kali's fierce appearances have been the subject of extensive descriptions in several earlier and modern works. Though her fierce form is filled with awe- inspiring symbols, their real meaning is not what it first appears- they have equivocal significance.

Kali's blackness symbolizes her all-embracing, comprehensive nature, because black is the color in which all other colors merge; black absorbs and dissolves them. 'Just as all colors disappear in black, so all names and forms disappear in her' (Mahanirvana Tantra). Or black is said to represent the total absence of color, again signifying the nature of Kali as ultimate reality. This in Sanskrit is named as nirguna (beyond all quality and form). Either way, Kali's black color symbolizes her transcendence of all form.
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QUOTE(jlx @ Jan 22 2008, 08:44 AM) *

SO anybody have any suggestions on how to approach this god whit out getting my head chopped off??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chop.gif)

Parvati only appears as Kali when someone has done something to enrage her to the point of annihilating them.
If you did nothing to upset Parvati, then you have nothing to worry about.


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post Feb 6 2009, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Djinn Shiva @ Feb 4 2009, 02:01 PM) *

Parvati only appears as Kali when someone has done something to enrage her to the point of annihilating them.
If you did nothing to upset Parvati, then you have nothing to worry about.



I've had some interesting experiences, lately. Someone threw fireworks at the side of my house and set the roof on fire the day after there was an attempted burglary. Then about a month later, I lost my wallet one night (last weekend) and five hours after that, at 4 am, I had my steel mailbox thrown through the front window of my house, with the end result being that I had to move out.

Apparently there is a message earlier in this thread about there being an onset of chaos once someone else put a Kali statue on their altar; the weird thing is, I've owned a Kali statue for probably close to two years now, and nothing like that has happened up to this point.

I'm unsure whether to wonder if Mother is angry with me, or to be grateful for the fact that although I woke up covered in broken glass, somehow I was completely unscathed.


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QUOTE(Petrus @ Feb 6 2009, 11:24 AM) *

I've had some interesting experiences, lately. Someone threw fireworks at the side of my house and set the roof on fire the day after there was an attempted burglary. Then about a month later, I lost my wallet one night (last weekend) and five hours after that, at 4 am, I had my steel mailbox thrown through the front window of my house, with the end result being that I had to move out.

Apparently there is a message earlier in this thread about there being an onset of chaos once someone else put a Kali statue on their altar; the weird thing is, I've owned a Kali statue for probably close to two years now, and nothing like that has happened up to this point.

I'm unsure whether to wonder if Mother is angry with me, or to be grateful for the fact that although I woke up covered in broken glass, somehow I was completely unscathed.

Wow, that sounds pretty bad.

It sounds kinda like someone does have it out for you, and yet someone is protecting you at the same time.
You may want to try out an anti-curse spell and see if things improve.

I don't think Parvati has anything to do with it. And if she does, she'd be the one protecting you.
If Kali was attacking you, you'd for sure be dead by now. She's not one to waste time torturing someone.


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post Feb 11 2009, 10:37 AM
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you know, mother has a way of "subtle" hinting that you are not supposed to be doing something, or youre not supposed to be living a certain way. pretty much, she forces you to reassess your situation, and this does seem like one of those moments. perhaps you should consider moving? she may be making a very good point: its time to move along and find something new and better for you. in any case, if its not her...you should still move. what kind of crap neighborhood are you living in??!

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post Feb 12 2009, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(valkyrie @ Feb 12 2009, 03:37 AM) *

you know, mother has a way of "subtle" hinting that you are not supposed to be doing something, or youre not supposed to be living a certain way. pretty much, she forces you to reassess your situation, and this does seem like one of those moments. perhaps you should consider moving? she may be making a very good point: its time to move along and find something new and better for you. in any case, if its not her...you should still move. what kind of crap neighborhood are you living in??!


Hi Valkyrie,
I was wondering if you were still posting on SM!

I was living in a crappy area of the city...and yes, I think Kali was telling to me to move a while ago, as I mentioned earlier in this thread...but I didn't for a long time. ;-)

I got out the morning the incident happened...am now living with my (corporeal *grin*) mother, outside the city.


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haha. well good. yeah. i dont usually have wireless where im staying and its hard for me to get access to the internet. im trying to fix it...i feel handicapped without it. anyway...to show and tell, lol...im had misfortune after misfortune with my last job so i up and quit cuz i felt like i wasnt supposed to be working there. yeah, not very smart...but i gotta trust ill get a better job. we also got a new rent situation. we haven't cleansed it yet though. im worried it was a mistake because i keep running into a brick wall everytime i try to do something. well we'll see...if it was the right thing to do, shat may actually STOP hitting the fan now lol. ah Kali...not one for the faint of heart indeed.

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daev   Kali   Mar 22 2005, 02:03 PM
DropAndRiver   I love Kali. She is very much a living lesson whic...   Mar 25 2005, 01:01 PM
TheFates   I personally think of her as manifest love read up...   Jun 17 2005, 10:04 AM
moonburn   I had bought a statue of her a while (years) back ...   Jan 4 2006, 11:52 AM
bleachXlight   i have written a poem with Kali in it and even t...   Sep 6 2006, 11:04 AM
OmNamaShivaya   Kalima is indeed ancient and yes i agree that she ...   Nov 12 2006, 01:03 AM
Petrus   Kalima is indeed ancient and yes i agree that she ...   Nov 24 2007, 11:01 AM
Whitewolf   Thank you so much for starting this topic. I fi...   Nov 18 2006, 09:57 PM
mystick   hi Petrus. Kali is fond of Blood. so any ritual wh...   Nov 24 2007, 02:49 PM
Petrus   Anyway you wanted to take part in the ritual and i...   Nov 25 2007, 01:06 AM
Petrus   I was going to re-edit my last reply to this threa...   Nov 25 2007, 08:34 AM
mystick   Well infact i am currently working with Hindu Gods...   Nov 25 2007, 02:08 PM
Petrus   As for Kali, she is here for a purpose and she is ...   Nov 25 2007, 03:46 PM
OmNamaShivaya   hey man..i used to be a medium for kali for well o...   Nov 26 2007, 03:57 AM
Petrus   i can teach them to you if you want.Om shakti.. Y...   Nov 26 2007, 11:30 AM
Petrus   close your eyes chant her name repeatedly(midnite ...   Nov 28 2007, 10:24 AM
OmNamaShivaya   actually most english translations i see are gross...   Nov 26 2007, 12:39 PM
Petrus   by the way do you need the yantra for kali which y...   Nov 26 2007, 02:18 PM
Gesigewigus   Kali is the only God I consider worthy enough to b...   Nov 26 2007, 11:25 PM
Petrus   The most peaceful experiences I gain from Her, are...   Nov 27 2007, 04:08 AM
Gesigewigus   Here's a totally, bat#$%! crazy thoug...   Nov 28 2007, 12:35 AM
mystick   But Kali, in some traditions (cause really Hinduis...   Nov 28 2007, 01:23 AM
Gesigewigus   not good statement at all. Hinduism is one of the ...   Nov 28 2007, 10:15 PM
OmNamaShivaya   Tantrism,Vaishnavism,Shaivism etc etc etc yes they...   Nov 28 2007, 11:24 PM
Gesigewigus   Tantrism,Vaishnavism,Shaivism etc etc etc yes they...   Nov 29 2007, 10:32 PM
mystick   here are some stuff i compiled from the internet t...   Nov 29 2007, 08:16 AM
mystick   Mystick, thanks for the collection of poems/prayer...   Nov 30 2007, 06:17 AM
Petrus   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztUIo3andAk I foun...   Dec 7 2007, 11:28 AM
Petrus   I bought a Kali statue last Monday. I'm not e...   Jan 12 2008, 02:01 PM
jlx   Okey i read a line here a line there but thats not...   Jan 21 2008, 11:23 AM
jlx   SO anybody have any suggestions on how to approach...   Jan 22 2008, 08:44 AM
mystick   Have you gone through the replies on this post? W...   Jan 22 2008, 01:29 PM

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