Meditation Is Key? Options

In all my reading and understanding of the many different avenues of the occult, a mutual factor has always been present. That factor is meditation. What I've been led to believe is that meditation can pretty much get you to where you're going, to the end. To the betterment of the self, hence your goal. If meditating holds such power, I was wondering what most of these other avenues of magick really do for the practitioner.

I'm not downgrading any other forms of magick, simply inquiring as to their purpose in life in comparison to meditation. I understand different aspects of magick, different wills and goals lead to different things and through different means however the end result is still the same and can be achieved through meditation alone. Or so I've been led to believe. Especially considering that meditation is a common part of most magickal practice, what makes the all powerful method of enhancing oneself to become yet another tool for the practicing magician? Again, I'm just curious and it's a question that's been on my mind. Something like, "Why do all this, if you can just do this and ultimately get the same results?".

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Interesting. So although meditation is a powerful practice, it has a limit? Or is what you are saying, once that meditator does more than meditate and observe, using their will and desire, he/she becomes the magician from mere action?

As mostly everything on this earth has a place and purpose for being there, I wonder, is meditation an interchangeable element meant to be used specifically with or for something else? Or simply alone. I suppose meditation is a tool to begin with considering what it yields and the reasons for meditating in the first place. However, I do understand your scenario and the circumstance thereof where the individual would have to do more than meditate. Delving into other areas the which you have illustrated for us does make sense to me and I thank you for your response =)

Esoterica does make a good point. I would say that meditation is not necessarily a prerequisite to practicing magic... however, I do believe that without meditation, the magician will be hard pressed to achieve beyond a certain level of attainment. Meditation builds focus, concentration, inner calm, and perhaps most important for the magician, clarity. Without focus and concentration, the magician can still whip himself into an emotional frenzy and haphazardly fire that emotional energy into a sigil or ritual, etc. Without inner calm he may still figure out what he wants to do magic for, define a purpose for his work. However without clarity his own self-knowledge will never get beyond a superficial level. Clarity is the result of meditation that cannot be attained any other way, because it requires that we turn inward and examine ourself, and seek to still the extraneous mind which obscures our view of the true self.

Clarity is the greatest goal of meditation, I believe - the initiation of what ultimately becomes a cause for further change. It is so important because if we lose that clarity, although we may not lose focus, concentration, or inner calm, we can still lose sight of that inner truth. The unfoldment of that truth is never ending as long as we maintain that clarity.

peace

when does the meditator cross some invisible line to become the magician? - imo, its when they naturally progress from merely observing to attempting to do or change something purposely with an intent

is meditation required to be a magician? - imo, yes, for it gives you access to the real eternal you that has been around forever, and only that personality can leave this physical world and walk the others

Liked this responce... as most who meditate do so with intent, even if its only for clarity they are then, ''magicans'', taking control of a situation and changing it according to their will.