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azareth
post Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
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The golden developed a vey nice and effective way for drawing sigils,that is the rose cross,many magicians used this method with success,I keep a copy in my grimoire,there is not much to say actually about it so i will just insert the rose cross:
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simply trace the word you want to sigilize with a pencil drawing a small horizontal line in the beginning of the sigil and a small circle at the end.

Charge the sigil and good luck.


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post Apr 12 2009, 05:16 PM
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I agree that using the rose cross with out inherent knowledge on it isn’t best compared to using a system original and sacred to myself. I actually think the typewriter is a neat idea.

I don’t think you’re a noob, it just irritates me because people throw out quotes willy nilly and I’m use to teenage know-it-alls throwing out Nietzsche and Crowley quotes cause its cool and “sophisticated” sounding, its just silly to me.

Crowley on account of his personal life, his knowledge and competence in the occult ought to be obvious. Nowhere in his enormous body of work does he ever suggest that group belief lends validity to sigils, or that disbelief would rob them of their power. Carl Jung was not a magician.

Well going by the quote you threw up I should “doubt” it all including Crowley‘s enormous body of work. You still lack understanding though. Also Crowley isn’t the only magician out there.

“Carl Jung was not a magician.”

A lot of people combine psychology and philosophy with their occult practice (for example, the idea that spirits are a product of one‘s ego). People are reinventing and experimenting with occult practices and beliefs instead of sitting back and excepting Crowley’s work as the ultimate truth. Remember to doubt.

“Azareth, I have seen many people take your "free for all" approach and have found them (more often than not) mistaking lack of discipline for lack of definition. You say you've had success. Great! Can you tell us some more about your methods, the aims, and the results? Your previous response on this matter left much to be desired, lacking all the details that were requested.”

Not to be a kiss a$$ but Azareth, based on his post has displayed a decent amount of knowledge on the occult. I didn’t get the impression “free for all”, he just has an opened mind vs. stubborn skeptical contempt.

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azareth   The Rose Cross   Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
azareth   http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sigil-3.g...   Apr 8 2009, 05:08 PM
Imperial Arts   [img]http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sig...   Apr 8 2009, 07:11 PM
azareth   What, in your opinion, makes these sigils valid? W...   Apr 9 2009, 02:15 PM
Imperial Arts   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration ritu...   Apr 10 2009, 12:59 AM
Mchawi   Not quite there yet so excuse me commenting but a ...   Apr 11 2009, 08:55 AM
Aphrodite   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration rit...   Apr 11 2009, 09:56 AM
esoterica   so then what is the base object onto which this si...   Apr 11 2009, 09:20 AM
azareth   "The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecratio...   Apr 11 2009, 01:21 PM
Aphrodite   I like your analogy of the dollar sign, its used a...   Apr 11 2009, 04:49 PM
Imperial Arts   I would assert that belief in one's magic has ...   Apr 11 2009, 07:07 PM
Aphrodite   I think I understand the typewriter/rose cross ana...   Apr 11 2009, 09:04 PM
Imperial Arts   my theory was since many people use the rose cros...   Apr 12 2009, 11:53 AM
esoterica   >>"Doubt! Doubt all! Doubt even...   Apr 12 2009, 08:45 AM
azareth   Imperial arts : "would assert that belief in...   Apr 12 2009, 01:02 PM
Aphrodite   “This reminds me of Dee and kelly's experiment...   Apr 12 2009, 03:24 PM
Imperial Arts   I don’t believe Malkuth is a self aware entity, ...   Apr 12 2009, 04:21 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   [color=#3333FF] The Rose is a symbol taken from t...   Apr 15 2009, 01:11 PM
azareth   The rose is the heart of the rose cross, the lame...   Apr 15 2009, 01:29 PM
Mchawi   Yeesh, don't let this turn into an argument. I...   Apr 13 2009, 06:29 AM
Remared   Well going by the quote you threw up I should “dou...   Apr 15 2009, 09:48 AM
azareth   I am pretty sure IA's use of Crowley's qu...   Apr 15 2009, 01:16 PM
azareth   we don't have any business using their symbols...   Apr 13 2009, 04:29 PM
Aphrodite   “A sigil being a type of phone number that you can...   Apr 15 2009, 02:47 PM
Praxis   A map is not the same as the territory. A menu is ...   Nov 15 2011, 07:37 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Wow, Praxis you've been on a resurrection kick...   Nov 17 2011, 11:02 AM
Praxis   Yeah - when I can, instead of starting new thre...   Nov 17 2011, 12:13 PM

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