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Petrus
post Feb 25 2009, 10:53 PM
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Just thought I'd mention some mental imagery which I was getting fairly strongly while reading this evocation account in particular by Imperial Arts a few days ago. I think the reason why I mention this is because I wanted to ask if people thought this was the type of environment that possibly would have been used for evocations thousands of years ago, as I really have no idea for the most part.

He mentions elsewhere (I think in the Goetic QA thread) of having a 20 x 20 x 20 room, but for some reason the mental images I was getting when reading this particular evocation were in an environment that I think was around twice that size. I'm not claiming these were of his room...just pictures of another room that came up.

On reading the spirit's description, for some reason I mentally first saw it lying on the ground, rather than seated on a throne.

The ground and the surrounding room, including the walls, that I saw were of sandstone. There were gaps in the walls at around every five feet, of equal distance, which let in the open air; in this particular mental image it seemed to be night. There was a gold leaf tapestry on the furthest left hand wall; I couldn't make out any symbols or markings on them, though.

The circle seemed huge; perhaps 12 feet rather than the 9 Imperial mentions. I'm not so good with numbers, but it looked as though 3-4 people could stand next to each other in it fairly comfortably. It wasn't painted in jet black, but actually white, and the sandstone was sufficiently dark orange that it stood out well. The triangle was on the right hand side of the circle from the operator's perspective, facing forward towards it, and I think would have been about three feet equilaterally as well.

The single main thing that struck me, though, was the centrepiece of the room. There was a large steel firepit (probably a meter in diameter) between the circle and triangle, which struck me as odd, although again, I wouldn't really know.

I saw the operator as wearing pure white. The sword present was a scimitar rather than a straight blade. Another odd point which I could not figure out the rationale for, was that in this mental image anyway, the operator had a thick staff of probably 5" in diameter, and between the final calling and the welcoming of the spirit, struck the ground with it three times, in a manner which reminded me of the use of a gavel.

I could just be remembering what I've seen in a movie somewhere, but somehow I don't think so. I really don't know where the inspiration for this image would have come from, since I've never read personally about anyone doing a Goetic evocation who didn't do it in a garage, basement, or lounge room. I got the impression though that what I was seeing, was something close to what the ideal/original environment for performing these evocations would have been thousands of years ago, if Solomon actually did perform them himself.

As insane as it might sound, I've honestly started wondering whether or not I might have reincarnational memory where the Goetia is concerned. Reason why I say that is because, in conjunction with this, when I was reading Lon DuQuette's book on it the other night, where he describes it feeling like having to pull one of them from your stomach, my own stomach suddenly tensed up to an extreme degree, and I underwent a fairly severe emotional state change, as well; it was like I could relate to what he was saying, and yet I've never actually done a Goetic evocation in my life before.

I'm also noticing where the Goetia is concerned...I'm becoming obsessed. I will look through the descriptions of the various entities, and basically start thinking how horrible they all are, and how I'd never want to have anything to do with that. I close the book, or the site or whatever...and then a few days later, I'm back looking at it again. ;-)

Anywayz...just some random weirdness from the last few days.

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post Apr 12 2009, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE(Petrus @ Feb 26 2009, 02:53 PM) *

I'm also noticing where the Goetia is concerned...I'm becoming obsessed. I will look through the descriptions of the various entities, and basically start thinking how horrible they all are, and how I'd never want to have anything to do with that. I close the book, or the site or whatever...and then a few days later, I'm back looking at it again. ;-)


Sounds like someone wants to talk to you... do you find that their names end up in your head at random intervils? This happens to me a lot.... usually means they need to talk. Its either that, or they throw light in my eyes, drop a book, or make coffing sounds or call out my name (this doesnt happen anymore, because when I see their names, I know I should just check to see if something is needed).

...and yes, I know, being a goetic's bitch can be a bit annoying (I know not to always run when called...), but hey, they do work for me, and they LOVE it. Keeps them entertained.

In short, do you feel one of them is trying to get your attention? might pay to just call them forward and say "HEY, yeah you, whats the deal? your hanging around me a lot... any reason as to why?"

and remember..... creaming soda (always buy the cheap no name brad stuff) always tastes nice... and can be a nice incentive.

if you get no luck, drop a line, I'll see if I can talk to them and find out if its just you... or them

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