we don't have any business using their symbols, especially if others are just as effective and relatively easy to produce.
well i actually use their symbols,and i will continue to do so,I think your question may be.. can we use certain methods out of their system of practice..?
my own opinion is yes we can.
Carl jung was a magician or not,its not important, according to this ,you might be saying that we will dismiss the research done by scientists who study paranormal because they are not occultists.
“Azareth, I have seen many people take your "free for all" approach and have found them (more often than not) mistaking lack of discipline for lack of definition. You say you've had success. Great! Can you tell us some more about your methods, the aims, and the results? Your previous response on this matter left much to be desired, lacking all the details that were requested.”
Well . you have the right to believe what you want,and i have a right to believe you are wrong,discipline is an essential part of my practice,i can say without exaggeration that I had disciplines very few people would endure,my experiences,well its much to be said,some of it will remain a secret for good reasons,others i would be glad to tell if you are genuinely interested, I will not comment on any skepticism and sarcasm because,I am not here to make enemies,but rather Learn and enrich my practice.
I hope you will understand that I'm not a "noob," and perhaps realize that I do have a large amount of knowledge on occult subjects from learning and practice. If that makes me a "know it all," so be it. Whatever may be said against Crowley on account of his personal life, his knowledge and competence in the occult ought to be obvious. Nowhere in his enormous body of work does he ever suggest that group belief lends validity to sigils, or that disbelief would rob them of their power. Carl Jung was not a magician.
Regarding A.crowley,i think he is respect worthy,being a sex and drug addict is none of my business,my business is his knowledge of the occult,
I don't think you are a noob,and i am glad that you have a large amount of knowledge,which is good for you,BUT If you think you know it all you are mistaken, even the gurus of the occult never claimed to know it all or even know too much.after all we are all mortals and Ego can be an obstacle towards enlightenment,If you really know it all,then i would gladly worship you..
I will not turn it to an argument,as thats not the reason i am here.
Peace and love to all
Azareth
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