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azareth
post Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
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The golden developed a vey nice and effective way for drawing sigils,that is the rose cross,many magicians used this method with success,I keep a copy in my grimoire,there is not much to say actually about it so i will just insert the rose cross:
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simply trace the word you want to sigilize with a pencil drawing a small horizontal line in the beginning of the sigil and a small circle at the end.

Charge the sigil and good luck.


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post Apr 13 2009, 04:29 PM
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we don't have any business using their symbols, especially if others are just as effective and relatively easy to produce.

well i actually use their symbols,and i will continue to do so,I think your question may be.. can we use certain methods out of their system of practice..?
my own opinion is yes we can.

Carl jung was a magician or not,its not important, according to this ,you might be saying that we will dismiss the research done by scientists who study paranormal because they are not occultists.


“Azareth, I have seen many people take your "free for all" approach and have found them (more often than not) mistaking lack of discipline for lack of definition. You say you've had success. Great! Can you tell us some more about your methods, the aims, and the results? Your previous response on this matter left much to be desired, lacking all the details that were requested.”

Well . you have the right to believe what you want,and i have a right to believe you are wrong,discipline is an essential part of my practice,i can say without exaggeration that I had disciplines very few people would endure,my experiences,well its much to be said,some of it will remain a secret for good reasons,others i would be glad to tell if you are genuinely interested, I will not comment on any skepticism and sarcasm because,I am not here to make enemies,but rather Learn and enrich my practice.


I hope you will understand that I'm not a "noob," and perhaps realize that I do have a large amount of knowledge on occult subjects from learning and practice. If that makes me a "know it all," so be it. Whatever may be said against Crowley on account of his personal life, his knowledge and competence in the occult ought to be obvious. Nowhere in his enormous body of work does he ever suggest that group belief lends validity to sigils, or that disbelief would rob them of their power. Carl Jung was not a magician.

Regarding A.crowley,i think he is respect worthy,being a sex and drug addict is none of my business,my business is his knowledge of the occult,
I don't think you are a noob,and i am glad that you have a large amount of knowledge,which is good for you,BUT If you think you know it all you are mistaken, even the gurus of the occult never claimed to know it all or even know too much.after all we are all mortals and Ego can be an obstacle towards enlightenment,If you really know it all,then i would gladly worship you..

I will not turn it to an argument,as thats not the reason i am here.


Peace and love to all
Azareth
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azareth   The Rose Cross   Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
azareth   http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sigil-3.g...   Apr 8 2009, 05:08 PM
Imperial Arts   [img]http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sig...   Apr 8 2009, 07:11 PM
azareth   What, in your opinion, makes these sigils valid? W...   Apr 9 2009, 02:15 PM
Imperial Arts   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration ritu...   Apr 10 2009, 12:59 AM
Mchawi   Not quite there yet so excuse me commenting but a ...   Apr 11 2009, 08:55 AM
Aphrodite   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration rit...   Apr 11 2009, 09:56 AM
esoterica   so then what is the base object onto which this si...   Apr 11 2009, 09:20 AM
azareth   "The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecratio...   Apr 11 2009, 01:21 PM
Aphrodite   I like your analogy of the dollar sign, its used a...   Apr 11 2009, 04:49 PM
Imperial Arts   I would assert that belief in one's magic has ...   Apr 11 2009, 07:07 PM
Aphrodite   I think I understand the typewriter/rose cross ana...   Apr 11 2009, 09:04 PM
Imperial Arts   my theory was since many people use the rose cros...   Apr 12 2009, 11:53 AM
esoterica   >>"Doubt! Doubt all! Doubt even...   Apr 12 2009, 08:45 AM
azareth   Imperial arts : "would assert that belief in...   Apr 12 2009, 01:02 PM
Aphrodite   “This reminds me of Dee and kelly's experiment...   Apr 12 2009, 03:24 PM
Imperial Arts   I don’t believe Malkuth is a self aware entity, ...   Apr 12 2009, 04:21 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   [color=#3333FF] The Rose is a symbol taken from t...   Apr 15 2009, 01:11 PM
azareth   The rose is the heart of the rose cross, the lame...   Apr 15 2009, 01:29 PM
Aphrodite   I agree that using the rose cross with out inheren...   Apr 12 2009, 05:16 PM
Mchawi   Yeesh, don't let this turn into an argument. I...   Apr 13 2009, 06:29 AM
Remared   Well going by the quote you threw up I should “dou...   Apr 15 2009, 09:48 AM
azareth   I am pretty sure IA's use of Crowley's qu...   Apr 15 2009, 01:16 PM
Aphrodite   “A sigil being a type of phone number that you can...   Apr 15 2009, 02:47 PM
Praxis   A map is not the same as the territory. A menu is ...   Nov 15 2011, 07:37 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Wow, Praxis you've been on a resurrection kick...   Nov 17 2011, 11:02 AM
Praxis   Yeah - when I can, instead of starting new thre...   Nov 17 2011, 12:13 PM

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