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There is no lesson here. I’ve taken Archaeology and Anthropology courses so please spare me the essays., its redundant. I’m tried of the confederate flag debate.
That last post of mine was not aimed at you specifically, it was simply an attempt to share information that most people do not normally hear. If it is not something you want to read - don't read it. Most people hear the version of the Civil War where the North was just this Godly righteous state that was purging the south of backward politics and racism. Most people do not even attempt to try to see things from the southern point of view.
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Yeah, well I’m sorry slavery ended, I feel sorry for those white southerners, they were just trying to help out us poor, primate colored, sloping forehead people.
Please don't take me out of context. I was just pointing out, from a historical angle, how dependent the south was on slavery. Just a note on the side I hope you didn't think I was saying phrenology is right. Its a "pseudo-science". Its not a real science based on anything factual. Just some old white dude's opinions.
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The southerners were for slavery (I‘m sure there were some Northerners for it), end of story.
Actually quite a few southerns were NOT for slavery although most in office managed to keep it out of legislation, even before the Confederacy. It had come up several times and had the south stayed afloat and not remained a part of the US it would have only been a matter of time before they would have had to end slavery on their own. It was not a popular practice for anyone not living on a plantation. To be fair, it wasn't for a lack of racism. The Southern constitution clearly stated that the rights of men only applied to white men. But at the same time slavery was still considered an anti-Christian practice. While most Southern whites did have at least some racist view of blacks (which the demographics were not much different in the North) many whites thought that true Christian values did not in any way justify outright slavery.
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I’m sure that compares greatly to the millions of lives ruined and destroyed.
Yes. It does. Had the Northern states shared assets and made fair legislation for the south, the civil war would have never happened. Had slavery been abolished before the Civil war, the southern states would still have ceded from the union. Politically speaking, slavery was a very minor issue to a white government that largely held racist views of its own - either the north or the south. It only became a big issue when Lincoln made it one.
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Anyways I’m done debating Acid on this. Lets agree to disagree on everything.
Ok? As long as you reply to me I'm probably going to keep responding back though.
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I think I’m done with this forum, its too ignorant.
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style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) careful Aphrodite! Fortunately I know you are smart enough to not actually be ignorant, but you have made statements that someone could interpret as being ignorant yourself. Besides ITS FIGHT CLUB! (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Its suppose to be full of heated debate. And people like you keep it interesting. So I hope the "ignorant" opinions of a few don't deter you enough to just leave the forum! That's just silly!
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The "original" Arabs came from the Middle East and migrated to various parts of Africa as well.
Have you seen people from Yeman or Oman? Many tend to look really black and yet they are still of the Arabian penisula and speak Arabic and practice Arabic culture. Same is true for many tribal people's such as the Beduoin. Being Arabic (which is a descriptive cultural-ethnic term) simply refers to anyone who can trace all or part of their genetic heritage to the Arabian peninsula and the people there. Yes Arabic *culture* has spread across much of north Africa, yet most of those people are not purely Arabic but mixed with other cultural groups as well. So yeah there are plenty of people who can claim Arabic heritage and be white as can be or they can be black as well. Being Arabic is not limited to skin color.
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That's why the word is widely used to mean not just people of Arabic culture, but ethnic Arabs. Like I said, I don't think it's an attempt to be racist; rather, the newer definition is now expanded to include all those affected and "converted" by the Arabic Empire.
There is a difference between ethnic Arabs and cultural Arabs. Ethnic Arabs do not simply speak Arabic or practice Arabic customs, they can literally trace their origins to Semitic people of the Middle East. Cultural Arabs are those who's geneology does not come directly from the Middle East but they have adopted Arabic language and custums.
Arabic Empire? Are you refering to the Caliphate of the 7th and 8th centuries?