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Xenomancer
post May 10 2009, 10:10 PM
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Hello again, folks.

So I decided to start over in the whole scheme of things from scratch, seeing as how my pre-assumptions have become too messy for me to deal with.

I wanted to start from the bottom up, so on that note, I thought that maybe what I was missing out on was an actual mindset that I would set aside solely for magickal workings. Then, I thought to myself, "But how can I manage my thinking process from drifting away from the tasks at hand if I really want to do anything?" at that point, after a good intellectual meditation, I realized that there may be a connection to the language I "Think" in and the language I "speak." Then, it struck me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lightning.gif)

Ok, maybe not like that, maybe more like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Lighten.gif)

"Why not study a language to be used for magickal purposes? Such as chanting and incantation? And only use that language for all magickal workings?"

It made sense. There would be a clear division in my mind, as a returning novice, between magickal thinking and mundane thinking, both separated by allocating different language functions of my brain to each respective situation. A magick language.

Then I sat down and started thinking. The thought train was running at full steam.

Latin? Maybe if I wanted to invoke energies of Law, Judgment,and Judeo-Christian-type energy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_popeanim.gif) I made the correlations by remembering that many old decrees and law terminologies come from Latin. That, and for a long time, masses were held in Latin, so there is alot of invested thoughtform energy there through that linguistic conduit.

Greek? Definitely a good choice. Good for invoking energies of Science, Logic, Philosophy, and Math. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_bookread.gif) Most scholarly fields have their terms and thought styles rooted in Greek language.

English, my own language? I already speak it. Nothing too magickal that I can see, as I use it profanely all the time, especially in matters of Bureaucracy, Business, and Commerce. English is starting to become the dominant business language of the world, and this is the feeling I get from my own language when I meditated upon it's energies.

Sumerian? Arabic? Old Egyptian tongue? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Laie_58.gif) Good choices, but it may polarize my spirit to be biased in compatibility towards the energies of these cultures. The same idea may go for Apache, Cherokee, and other Native American tongues.

I wanted a language that is almost dead. Something arcane. Something reserved for spiritual matters. Something that has a reputation for being very unorthodox, something considered weird when it's writings are looked upon. Something nearly alien. Something so old, it is nearly forgotten by the mainstream. I put these factors together, and one language stood out from the rest: Brahmi.

I want to learn to read, write, and speak Brahmi. I want to know where is a good source to learn this language. I did a little digging, myself, and found that the only sources I could find for this were college books ranging from $230-$510 USD!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif) Seeing as how I can't really afford the time or money to plan a trip to Goa and explore this on my own, I was wondering if the international community of SM could direct me to a good resource(s) to learn such an interesting language!

Plus, aesthetically speaking, it looks like it was written by aliens! How cool is that!? It sorta adds to the whole "mysterious" effect.

~Xenomancer

PS: If all else fails, I could settle for old-style Gaelic.


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post May 11 2009, 09:31 PM
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It is worthwhile to consider just what exactly is the role that spoken word does or will hold in your magic. Is it simply a device to take on the right mindset? Is a spoken word the expression of crystallized knowledge, intention, etc.


That's what I am aiming for, in contrast to triggering brain changes. I played around enough with neuromancy, and now some friends of mine who are into metaphysics and have a background in the medical field listened to my problem and said, "You're lucky. You might have induced seizures if you kept going that route." I'm just going to sidetrack for the rest of this paragraph to say that a few friends of mine and my fiancee's have developed strange epileptic conditions after going heavy into metaphysical endeavors. I asked where they (my medical-wizard friends) got their information from, and they said that they read some articles on measured brain changes in the turkish Sufis and other Mystics who go into a state of "mystical fervor/divine ecstasy."

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Other benefits are the freedom to create words which reflect concepts that are ultimately in your own mind but not found elsewhere as externalized concepts - words - thus opening a doorway which may possibly not be found elsewhere to speak those unique memes into existence in your magic.


To be bluntly honest with you, this is probably just what I was looking for. All those half-baked posts I made about two years ago or so made me sound borderline-schizotypal. Instead of circumlocuting constantly over what I am talking about, I can just give some of these feelings and sensations words of their own.

My memory goes to an old Star Trek: The Next Generation episode when Cpt. Picard meets the Tamarians, a race of beings who speak in metaphors and parables in order to convey their feelings (for information feel free to look it up on a wiki. It's a very interesting concept).

Instead of scrambling my brain and just sounding like a desperate Tamarian, I can now come up with actual words for these feelings. Indeed, there are very unique memes that are now only skirting the edge of my memory, because I failed to give them due solidification through the power of Words. I hope this endeavor solves that.

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And the research into languages to learn about construction will likely inspire some exciting paradigm development regarding the nature of the spoken word as the externalization of the human psyche, even the human spirit.


Tell me about it. About 5 or 6 years back, I was exposed to Japanese and made an effort to learn it. What a head trip! I learned about concepts and "memes," for lack of a better way of putting it, that put a substantially different spin on my comprehension of the world around me. Perhaps I will just learn other languages so I can get some inspiring material...

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do you have ancestral or past life connections with Brahmi?


Not really. Probably not. If anything, highly unlikely. One side of my family came from, trace 1000-1500 years, the Huns and Mongolia (my Hungarian side), and the other side came from the foothills of the Kurdish mountains, and eventually settled on the Phoenician coastline (my Lebanese background).

I just got turned onto it because of it's alien aesthetic.

But, Gaelic, now there's a language I think might be fun looking into. Plus, it may let me tap into the underlying akashic undertones associated with it, as Vagrant mentioned. The more I expose myself to, the more diversified and versatile I can become, I believe.

Thank you both. A+ responses. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/respect.gif)


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-Never learn the Art of Sword before the Art of Dance. - Celtic Proverb
-Even with spiritual power, an unchecked ego will only seek to deify itself. - Frank MacEowen
-One cannot traverse waters without causing waves. - Xenomancer
-I find it interesting that we as scholars of metaphysics have no problem discussing the intricacies of the threads of reality, but when it comes to the things that really matter, we forget them. - Xenomancer
-This world is your home. We have a mix of everything here. If you want better, make better. There's no rule of going elsewhere for the tools. That's what magick is about. - Xenomancer

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