QUOTE(Casadeluna @ May 19 2009, 03:02 PM)
there are millions of ways of expressing love with another person, i've never had sex so i can't tell you about the phisycal pleasure it brings, but personallyl yeah i've had experiances, dancing, moving, chanting, i duno, all feel so close, so connected, i dont think you need to break aphysical barrior to do so although i'm sure you can, so why have sex? cuz its fun? i duno, it seems like the only point would be to create a child, the great feeling is like a biproduct of it lol? not sure, but it reminds of a line from spiderma "with great power comes great responsibility, just because you can, does it mean you should? the devil/evil one/tempter is quiet the trickster, im sure if i find my female counterpart i'll share with her my body as well as soul, but i can find a reason to love everywoman? ah life is very confusing, untill i find the lady who treads warm love through my nightmares i will remain unscathed by another, not to say i havn't commited my fair share of sins.
being naked rocks
It is true, in my experience (it could just be the way I am personally built) that breaking that 'physical barrier' does create a lasting connection between yourself and that person - not necessarily a connection you want to have in every single case. Waiting is certainly worth it; I can't say I did the same, but there are times I wish I had. At the same time, I believe in a universal love, and even those times I've spent only one night with a person, I never did it unless I felt they shared my sense of cosmic love. Pros and Cons, I suppose, everyone has to trust their own instincts, because we're all built the same, but we're all built differently at the same time. Being human is a funny thing most of the time.
I can't say however that I agree that the 'devil' or the appropriately comparable force in creation, necessarily has a hand in all such mutual pleasures not reserved for 'the one'. Sex is not just for making children - although we are not animals, almost every semi-cognizant or comparably conscious animal engages in sex or fornication as a form of social activity, a way to bond. Sex is that between two partners (or more if that is your thing), a means of bonding, of seeking greater consciousness within one another, of pressing existential boundaries and discovering eternity in the body. Of course this is going to go further with your final partner than with anyone else, but it is possible to have a powerful resonance with someone and want to seek that bonding experience with them, without necessarily desiring to own them. To me this is what 'relationship' in the sense that we often mean it when we talk about a 'significant other', is really about. We all want home, territory (well most of us anyway), we want to belong and for someone else to belong to us. It's a double edged sword because this 'trickster' (my definition is likely different but I recognize a comparable natural force) wants you to feel such a thing is possible, that you can own another person, or that you need to be owned in some way. That spiritual shackle is as real as any other this force would manipulate you into. That isn't to say that relationships are false, etc., but rather that we must be sure that when we idealize something like Sex and reserve it strictly for that special relationship, that we still have the right idea about the nature of relationships to other people. Just because you have sex with someone, somewhere down the road, does not mean that you own them or visa versa - yet this is what it means to (for those that I've known personally long enough to hear them say it) the majority of those practicing 'abstinence until marriage' as it were, although 'marriage' doesn't always mean the exact same definition to everyone.
You certainly shouldn't settle in this area of experience in your life - but you should maintain a realistic (not pessimistic, but honest) view of what that relationship will mean. Understand that when you feel it is time, and you are ready to make that leap, possibly with someone else who is also waiting for the same moment, that afterwards it does not make either one of you the property of the other. In my opinion, that is really the only pitfall associated with this abstinence view. Sex does deserve a pedestal, all other experiences are compared to it ("it was better than sex", is an example of this manifesting), and it is the height of mutual experience between two people - not because of the physical act itself, but because of everything else that is going on within that act, which does not have to take place along with it, but is 'brought down to earth' by it. Sex is an act of invocation, and we can experience the same thing peripherally (experience talking) but it is no the same. This is a classical difference in views - ascending to the divine, and calling down the divine.
And I can tell you, sex without that component, barely constitutes physical pleasure.
Personally, reading what you have to say so far sounds like on some level you degrade sex, rather than exalt it. While it seems counter intuitive you ask questions like "Why, cuz it's fun?" That is indicative of an attitude that does not give Sex the respect that you are claiming. I'm not attacking you, just suggesting, even if you are going to practice abstinence, be cautious of considering sex a sin, or relegating it down to the level of other base acts, because it is not those things, and although worth waiting for, whatever experiences you have so far, they don't compare to having the same experiences with True Sex added to them - and you won't be able to have that experience unless you can acknowledge and accept that act as divine in origin.
peace
Lustfull Bonds, lust...
Casadeluna Lustfull Bonds May 3 2009, 11:21 AM
May 3 2009, 11:21 AM
