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Mchawi
post Apr 24 2009, 08:46 AM
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Scientists find most Earth-like exoplanet ever

This discourse is really getting old. these scientists need to change tact otherwise I will lose all respect in them. the whole idea that there can be a planet out there that is habitable by humans is a product of a culture that revels in fantasy, and attempts to live out the fantasy believing if you can imagine it, it is scientific reality, which is a bunch of bull ... an accident waiting to happen.

human beings are stuck with this one earth, and that's it. nothing else out here will do ... this is because we are products of our environment. everything about us corresponds in design to our surroundings ... the air we breathe, the weight of the atmosphere above us, the position of the earth in this solar system and the greater whole, the influence of earthly bodies around the earth on the earth itself and on us, etc. remove just one of these elements and we would have to change, evolve into a completely different species. change specifically those heavenly bodies around the earth that impact most on our environment, for example the moon, and we might even become extinct as our vital bodily rhythms are ruled by its influences, a good example being the female menstrual cycle.

change the size of the earth by a significant percentage, which would start from maybe 0.1 % and our bodies would respond by, for example, increasing or lowering blood pressure to cope with increased or decreased air pressure, so we do not bulge or implode, change the tensile strength of our tissue and the overall strength of our muscular system, etc. so that we can still function in the locomotive sense. if this change happens faster than we can adapt then we go extinct.

there is an infinite universe out there, it is true, and the basic elements it comprises of are the same, but this just means there is an infinite number of combinations of environments, meaning there can be no replica earth circumstances anywhere in the known or unknown universe. this is a mathematical fact. we could find a planet that is just the same size as ours, removed by the same distance from an equally sized sun, NOT. something is always going to be different, the extent of which will affect our survivability, starting with adaptability in that environment. let me rephrase what I have just said: there is no place out there where we can be viable in our current form and design, no place that would allow us the time to adapt. just one more corporeal entity too much and that's it. for example, an abundance of a frequency or lack of it, a compound, too much of an element or lack of it in the air, different emanations from the nearest sun, different gravitational forces ... something's gotta give, eventually but most likely immediately.

it is good to dream, and foster a dreamer mentality on the masses, for the sake of scientific advancement, but scientists should try to strike a balance between fantasy and reality, try to make people come down to earth ... lol ... at least that way they inculcate in people a sense of responsibility for the only home they have. true that ... and quite sad or unfortunate to realize we can only survive on earth. but then even the fact we find it surprising we can only survive here is a result of the brainwashing the scientific direction has caused on our minds. we find it hard to deal with the reality this is the only home we can ever have, and the rest is mere exploration. we find it easier to believe everything is possible, all you have to do is dream/fantasize.

that's how you get all them characters manufactured in Hollywood capable of feats that are impossible in real life, those super heroes we been reading in comics and on the big screen. take superman ... how does a man shaped like a man jump over buildings in one single bound? it is physically impossible to leap higher than a skyscraper with human legs for the simple reason they are not designed for such feats. you can put all the strength in the world in them, but they will not leap as much because of design limitations. you want to leap over buildings, then you gonna need longer and differently shaped legs. grasshoppers do not have legs that are disproportionately large compared to their overall size for nothing.

then there is the hulk and that feat of growing larger than the original size. how the f.k is it possible to increase size and mass without consuming anything. judging by the feats they make that thing do, the power it has, it must be heavier than a tank when fully blown. where does that mass come from? science tells us you cannot get something from nothing, so what is happening with this hulk thing? and we let our kids watch that stuff, hell! most of us were brought up on comic books with more of such characters in them, so we are watching those fantasy movies too ... lol...

it is good to dream, but keeping stuff a bit more quiet and down to earth doesn't do us a lot of harm. in fact it helps keep our youguns thinking thoughts that are safe for their environment ...


Well said in my opinion.

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I recall a youtube clip of Japanese Physicist Michio Kaku talking about how to explore and partake of interplanetary migrations: Only doable through use of machines and robots, as they have no real set lifespan.

This got me thinking about some sciences that the Transhumanist movement is about: Applying future technology to humanity, and I started to remember something about Infomorph Technology- The idea that one could download/upload human consciousness into a computer. Of course, this is all "fantasy" at this point, but then again, the notion of the earth revolving around the sun was also "fantasy" a long time ago. Another famous "fantasy" was that the earth is round. Anyhow, digressing, supposedly with the advent of the "technological singularity," eventually, somewhere along the line, optimistic transhumanists are hoping that there will be a discovery in Infomorphism.

Now why did I mention that? Because Michio Kaku's notion seems to play hand in hand with the idea of Infomorph technology to possibly conceive of a scenario where a human consciousness reaches beyond our solar system.

I am not saying we have this technology yet, nor am I saying that we are only a few days away from it. In fact, we are VERY far from anything RESEMBLING the technologies I mentioned. But, just thought I'd bring up a mind association that sparked up.


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Mchawi   Interplanetary Migration Is Based On Fantacy And Is Completely Unscientific.   Apr 24 2009, 08:46 AM
Vilhjalmr   I disagree, specifically about the part where the ...   Apr 24 2009, 03:40 PM
esoterica   these same scientists also say that demons, angels...   Apr 25 2009, 08:02 AM
Rightjack   The problem is not the fantasy but the fantasy see...   Apr 25 2009, 09:57 PM
esoterica   never fails that when one speaks of ancient knowle...   Apr 26 2009, 06:23 AM
Rightjack   Exactly. Islam has the brilliant principles of th...   Apr 26 2009, 01:48 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I'm not sure I agree that interplanetary migra...   Apr 27 2009, 10:11 AM
Mchawi   Hmmmm... yeah, still agree with most of what was s...   Apr 27 2009, 10:49 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   And what I am saying is only that sufficient techn...   Apr 28 2009, 03:05 PM
ron stafford   There seems to be a shortage of pride in our speci...   Apr 27 2009, 03:12 PM
esoterica   >>There seems to be a shortage of pride in o...   Apr 28 2009, 08:52 AM
Vilhjalmr   Every human could die off and it wouldn't matt...   Apr 28 2009, 02:03 PM
Vilhjalmr   I bow low before thee, Vagrant Pwner!   Apr 28 2009, 05:59 PM
esoterica   nice post - http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y200...   Apr 29 2009, 06:53 AM
Mchawi   Changed my tune... think Prabhupada is quite spot ...   May 23 2009, 08:51 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   The evidence that the moon landing - and subsequen...   May 24 2009, 12:03 PM
Vilhjalmr   With a little bit of research, every so-called ...   May 24 2009, 08:14 PM
Vilhjalmr   Ever thought of what might happen if an alien civi...   May 26 2009, 02:51 PM

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