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post May 5 2009, 07:16 PM
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I have done quite a bit of energy work, and im starting to get confused.

Where does the energy come from?

Psionics says directly from the mind.

Chakras says from below, from nature,

Middle pillar has energy directly from the divine involved.

I've heard of energy coming directly from yourself.

so i'm asking.


WHERE DOES IT REALLY COME FROM?

ALL THESE PLACES? JUST ONE?

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?

IS THERE ONE?

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post May 6 2009, 07:57 PM
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All answers posted here are correct.
Energy is the essence of everything and everyone,it is everything,animate or inanimate,it is a vibrational levels that make gases,liquids,solids and spirit.this energy have a vibrational blueprint which makes its prominent charecteristics,our body,soul,spirit is made of this mysterious force,this energy is the same in its most basic forms,manipulating it can be done using a simple rule. WHERE YOUR ATTENTION GOES ,YOUR ENERGY FLOWS.
or ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT. the chakra sytem is the channels which can send,recieve,encode,decode this energy.

It comes from everywhere in the universe,it comes from the microcosm as well as the macrocosm,every vibrational level is an aspect of something or some concept,for example gravity is a vibrational range that forms the attracting force.God is a very high vibrational state of pure,powerful,harmonic photonic vibrational range,matter is another vibrational range,every element has its own vibrational range.

These places are one in the sense of the most basic and fundemental building block,the universe is a one place,everyplace is the other in the sense of the endless space that contains this vibrational force,you are the universe,every grain of sand contains the whole universe and the universe contains this grain of sand.

The difference is the intensity and speed of these vibrations,every vibrational range makes something,(Human,bird,sea,wind,wood,stone,gas,metal...etc)
there are complex vibrations that makes mixtures of things ,bonding,gaining electrons ,loosing electrons.

yes there is one energy,that is the vital force of this universe and all its contents.

we are passing through a vibrational change which everything raises its vibrations or speed it up resulting in enlightenment this vibrational increase is gradual,people with naturally high vibrations will get there faster,people with less vibrational level will take more time to reach enlightenment.
example: lets say that enlightenment is reached when vibrations reach level 10 (for example),person A has the vibrational level of 7 while person B has a vibrational level of 2 ,person A will reach enlightenment faster than person B. who takes longer to achieve enlightenment.



Breathing ,visualisation,meditation are means of raising vibrational level.
This energy can be manipulated,influnced and controled by the above means,so its theoretically possible to change the charecteristics of things,shapeshifting,weather magick,attraction spells,banishing spells,turning lead into gold,gold to lead or any other form by changing its vibrational charectristics,this process is called (magick)as A.C puts it,Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.
So we are all stronger than we think.
Alchemy uses the metaphor of changing lead into Gold to point out this spiritual vibrational change from normal state,(Lead) to our higher self or enlightened state (gold).




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QUOTE(azareth @ May 6 2009, 08:57 PM) *

All answers posted here are correct.
Energy is the essence of everything and everyone,it is everything,animate or inanimate,it is a vibrational levels that make gases,liquids,solids and spirit.this energy have a vibrational blueprint which makes its prominent charecteristics,our body,soul,spirit is made of this mysterious force,this energy is the same in its most basic forms,manipulating it can be done using a simple rule. WHERE YOUR ATTENTION GOES ,YOUR ENERGY FLOWS.
or ENERGY FOLLOWS THOUGHT. the chakra sytem is the channels which can send,recieve,encode,decode this energy.

It comes from everywhere in the universe,it comes from the microcosm as well as the macrocosm,every vibrational level is an aspect of something or some concept,for example gravity is a vibrational range that forms the attracting force.God is a very high vibrational state of pure,powerful,harmonic photonic vibrational range,matter is another vibrational range,every element has its own vibrational range.

These places are one in the sense of the most basic and fundemental building block,the universe is a one place,everyplace is the other in the sense of the endless space that contains this vibrational force,you are the universe,every grain of sand contains the whole universe and the universe contains this grain of sand.

The difference is the intensity and speed of these vibrations,every vibrational range makes something,(Human,bird,sea,wind,wood,stone,gas,metal...etc)
there are complex vibrations that makes mixtures of things ,bonding,gaining electrons ,loosing electrons.

yes there is one energy,that is the vital force of this universe and all its contents.

we are passing through a vibrational change which everything raises its vibrations or speed it up resulting in enlightenment this vibrational increase is gradual,people with naturally high vibrations will get there faster,people with less vibrational level will take more time to reach enlightenment.
example: lets say that enlightenment is reached when vibrations reach level 10 (for example),person A has the vibrational level of 7 while person B has a vibrational level of 2 ,person A will reach enlightenment faster than person B. who takes longer to achieve enlightenment.
Breathing ,visualisation,meditation are means of raising vibrational level.
This energy can be manipulated,influnced and controled by the above means,so its theoretically possible to change the charecteristics of things,shapeshifting,weather magick,attraction spells,banishing spells,turning lead into gold,gold to lead or any other form by changing its vibrational charectristics,this process is called (magick)as A.C puts it,Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.
So we are all stronger than we think.
Alchemy uses the metaphor of changing lead into Gold to point out this spiritual vibrational change from normal state,(Lead) to our higher self or enlightened state (gold).
peace
Azareth



Well, that definitely simplifys the concept. By the way you describe it, it sounds like the universe is like "The Matrix". In fact, I think that the concept that everything is the same, distinguished by sub-atomic activity suggests that reality works like the basic programming of a computer - ones and zeros. I never thought of the vibration concept though. Perhaps if I meditate to attempt to vibrate my energy, I can establish results.Thanks for the idea.


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davisxmonster   Where Does Magic Come From?   May 5 2009, 07:16 PM
Ankhhape   From what I understand, Prana / Ka comes from the ...   May 5 2009, 09:21 PM
esoterica   "where does magic come from?" - nice koa...   May 6 2009, 05:24 AM
davisxmonster   woah way over my head. quantum mechanics.... s...   May 6 2009, 05:26 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   woah way over my head. quantum mechanics.... ...   Jun 22 2009, 01:34 AM
Jenfucius   Magic is an overarching generalization of a group...   Jun 23 2009, 08:05 AM
ShinobiBombay   "where does magic come from?" - nice ko...   May 11 2009, 10:31 AM
Djinn Shiva   What I believe is that the energy comes from anyth...   May 6 2009, 05:50 PM
Umbra Euri   Personally I work with spirits And I allow my vi...   May 10 2009, 09:21 PM
Hideout   The universe is filled with energy. Everything has...   Jun 18 2009, 04:08 PM
Jenfucius   Are you talking about 'magick' or talking ...   Jun 21 2009, 07:48 PM
Xenomancer   Quite true. Imagine trying to explain the electro...   Jun 22 2009, 10:02 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   But that begs a question, what of intentions th...   Jun 22 2009, 01:16 PM
Ankhhape   What a great thread . . . everything was born of v...   Jun 22 2009, 05:49 PM
Acid09   Well my take is that magick is its own seperate to...   Jun 22 2009, 08:59 PM
Jenfucius   Well my take is that magick is its own seperate t...   Jun 23 2009, 08:37 AM
davisxmonster   woah thanks for all the great replies guys. espec...   Jun 24 2009, 08:43 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   woah thanks for all the great replies guys. espe...   Jun 25 2009, 06:54 PM

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