Our Lord Jesus Christ, Lord or Man? Options

During my internet years, I found info like Jesus married Maria Magdalena, went to India and studied there, that he did not die on the cross. I'm not sure what to believe in. Yesterday, I finished reading Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code and in it I again read what I've found + Sarah, Jesus's daughter and how Constantine used the "perverted" new testament to make a god out of Jesus to win the Catholic over the Pagan. Altought the book has errors, it is still an interesting read.

What is your opinion on this? Jesus, the Lord or -just- a man?

Just to add some info to some previous posts. I also dont have my history books in front of me. But id like to add some more info for everyone to speculate about in regards to how jesus became, as opposed to what he taught. The torah speaks of a coming messiah, and it says that we shall know him by his works. It lists some miracles that the messiah will perform and that by these shall we know him. John can be interpreted as saying that jesus fulfilled these requirements. He can also be interpreted in other ways. Did jesus go around following the list, or did the opportunities just naturally present themselves. Did he actually perform miracles or did he fake them or did people make it up to perpetuate the myth. Do you believe in the big bang, static or oscillating universal models, or tolkeinesque creation? I think jesus was a clog salesman who carved mottos on his clogs to make them funny and appealing, and people believed the little stories he wrote on them and he just had a good imagination, but the silly people wanted him to be all that. But he actually was and the clogs werent real but they were brought to him after midnight by naked angels whose movie careers werent going well and so were doing nude angel work to pay the rent. Nude angel work pays well if you can get it. I got a set of nude angel wings on ebay and they go just great with my glow in the dark king james version.

Jesus apparently was fond of kids (in a wholesome down to earth way), and he would be smiling i suspect. Maybe matters of faith are best dealt with by fastidious researching and argumentative intellectualisation. Even for those who dont believe in jesus, jesus is a matter of faith. Do you believe in magick? Belief is akin to commitment. What is the nature of commitment? Commitment is not only a choice now, but is the acceptance that this is a choice you will have to make over and over and over again. I am in no way advocating putting down your books and making it all up for yourself, or just pig headedly sticking to some choice or belief you have made for the sake of continuity. I am suggesting that we should educate ourselves as much as possible, but that after we have devoured these words and opinions and ideas and theories, and revealed to ourselves as much as possible the possible motvations and causes behind all of these, that we should be entitled to sit back enjoy our beliefs for what they are - beliefs.

I suppose i am futilely reiterrating my opinion that man or myth or god or magician - im not sure wether he did or not, but if he gave his life - this indeed was a truly great gift. But maybe i am arrogant in saying that i believe that the reason for this was emotionally for love, but mentally out of that emotional love it was necessary to ensure the memory of the message - in my opinion jesus wanted us to hear his message more than he wanted us to worry about man or myth or miracle or whatever.

Just be kind to eachother - something its easy to forget.

Just be kind to eachother!!!

This post has been edited by extinctionspasm: Nov 26 2006, 05:16 AM

Just to add some info to some previous posts. I also dont have my history books in front of me. But id like to add some more info for everyone to speculate about in regards to how jesus became, as opposed to what he taught. The torah speaks of a coming messiah, and it says that we shall know him by his works. It lists some miracles that the messiah will perform and that by these shall we know him. John can be interpreted as saying that jesus fulfilled these requirements. He can also be interpreted in other ways. Did jesus go around following the list, or did the opportunities just naturally present themselves. Did he actually perform miracles or did he fake them or did people make it up to perpetuate the myth. Do you believe in the big bang, static or oscillating universal models, or tolkeinesque creation? I think jesus was a clog salesman who carved mottos on his clogs to make them funny and appealing, and people believed the little stories he wrote on them and he just had a good imagination, but the silly people wanted him to be all that. But he actually was and the clogs werent real but they were brought to him after midnight by naked angels whose movie careers werent going well and so were doing nude angel work to pay the rent. Nude angel work pays well if you can get it. I got a set of nude angel wings on ebay and they go just great with my glow in the dark king james version.

Jesus apparently was fond of kids (in a wholesome down to earth way), and he would be smiling i suspect. Maybe matters of faith are best dealt with by fastidious researching and argumentative intellectualisation. Even for those who dont believe in jesus, jesus is a matter of faith. Do you believe in magick? Belief is akin to commitment. What is the nature of commitment? Commitment is not only a choice now, but is the acceptance that this is a choice you will have to make over and over and over again. I am in no way advocating putting down your books and making it all up for yourself, or just pig headedly sticking to some choice or belief you have made for the sake of continuity. I am suggesting that we should educate ourselves as much as possible, but that after we have devoured these words and opinions and ideas and theories, and revealed to ourselves as much as possible the possible motvations and causes behind all of these, that we should be entitled to sit back enjoy our beliefs for what they are - beliefs.

I suppose i am futilely reiterrating my opinion that man or myth or god or magician - im not sure wether he did or not, but if he gave his life - this indeed was a truly great gift. But maybe i am arrogant in saying that i believe that the reason for this was emotionally for love, but mentally out of that emotional love it was necessary to ensure the memory of the message - in my opinion jesus wanted us to hear his message more than he wanted us to worry about man or myth or miracle or whatever.

Just be kind to eachother - something its easy to forget.

Just be kind to eachother!!!

I guess you should read up my post on The "Magic of Self" - the birth of a god. There isn't anything more real than our imaginations if you know what I mean, but I seriously find meditation a useful tool as well as a destructive weapon. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)