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post Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM
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During my internet years, I found info like Jesus married Maria Magdalena, went to India and studied there, that he did not die on the cross. I'm not sure what to believe in. Yesterday, I finished reading Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code and in it I again read what I've found + Sarah, Jesus's daughter and how Constantine used the "perverted" new testament to make a god out of Jesus to win the Catholic over the Pagan. Altought the book has errors, it is still an interesting read.

What is your opinion on this? Jesus, the Lord or -just- a man?


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I haven't read Dan Brown's book, although I saw the movie. But his ideas were clearly taken completely from the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail series of books by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln. That book and it's sequels were quite fascinating to me. My first degree was in History and I have always had a keen interest in history of the early Christian church. But while they were fascinating, there were large gaps in historical evidence bridged by conjecture. Many of the things that they suggested did seem logical, but there was no proof and their suggestions as to what occurred was only one possibility out of several or many. Really, there is no real proof that Jesus or Yoshua existed at all.

I'm not Christian whatesoever, so coming from this standpoint I would say that if he existed, Jesus was an ordinary man. Looking at it from a broader religious perspective, you have to wonder how other gods originated. Possibly Odin, for instance, was an actual man who lived during the Proto-Germanic period. Maybe he was well respected as being a wise leader and warrior, so they deified him. Maybe people have a need to have gods so they make them from the materials at hand. Perhaps many of the gods were originally ordinary men and women. I could easily argue against this, but it is an interesting thought that I wanted to throw out your way.

There are many possibilities and it is best that people throw off their religious indoctrination and see things without the blinders.


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Kinjo   Our Lord Jesus Christ   Jan 29 2006, 11:15 AM
Sabazel   an enlightent soul who decided to come back as a m...   Jan 29 2006, 12:08 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   dan browns book may be good, but it is still a fic...   Jan 29 2006, 12:34 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   my thoughts on the man. A misudnerstood sage, his...   Jan 29 2006, 12:40 PM
alia   I would rather side with the "just a man...   Jan 29 2006, 03:25 PM
A_Smoking_Fox   sure, Jesuz was just a man. buddha was just a man...   Jan 30 2006, 03:41 PM
Rakesh   What about the heretic theology of Johanites, bein...   Jan 31 2006, 05:16 PM
esoterica   a superb and concise description! brilliant...   Feb 1 2006, 10:07 AM
pratyahara   If you read the Old Testament, Jesus was the hebre...   Feb 2 2006, 08:56 AM
Rakesh   And yet, the Jews did not accept him as teh Messia...   Feb 4 2006, 11:47 AM
pratyahara   Are you saying Jesus took advantge of those waitin...   Feb 4 2006, 01:37 PM
esoterica   HA! I :wub: all of you so much! You m...   Feb 5 2006, 10:26 AM
vredesbyrd   he's a man. the christians created a story to...   Mar 17 2006, 04:59 PM
ChaosCrowley   he's a man. Ok I'll agree with that. I...   Mar 18 2006, 06:13 AM
Praxis   According to the Bible, Jesus was God incarnate as...   Mar 18 2006, 06:44 AM
Animalia   Jesus was real.   Nov 25 2006, 08:24 PM
SangueDiNapoli   Well, I think god had set a few messengers, and mi...   Mar 18 2006, 09:37 AM
tyrian   Seems to me the importance of 'Jesus as God...   Nov 3 2006, 07:52 PM
DeathStalker   I don't believe in jesus christ being anymore ...   Nov 4 2006, 04:58 AM
Theft   I've read info and seen shows disproving the i...   Nov 7 2006, 02:00 PM
ClockKeeper   I believe he did die on the cross, and that he did...   Nov 8 2006, 06:08 PM
Radiant Star   I could post several theories based on what -Heave...   Nov 9 2006, 03:38 AM
Saul de Plume   I'm going to go with a misunderdtood man. He w...   Nov 23 2006, 01:37 AM
extinctionspasm   Its interesting that one of jesus's most poign...   Nov 23 2006, 03:20 AM
DeathStalker   I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ...   Nov 24 2006, 01:40 AM
distillate   I also want to note that I revere Jesus Christ... ...   Nov 24 2006, 01:56 AM
DeathStalker   What about Ghandi, a man with great charisma and w...   Nov 24 2006, 04:15 AM
Jenfucius   Looking from an esoteric occult perspective I beli...   Nov 24 2006, 01:33 PM
Acid09   While the Da Vinci Code is good read and even not...   Nov 24 2006, 06:45 PM
Acid09   Well I lost track of time and got an hour ahead of...   Nov 24 2006, 07:37 PM
smasher666   Greetings to all. Jesus in the Bible over and o...   Nov 24 2006, 08:00 PM
bym   Would you possibly care to expand on that? One lin...   Nov 25 2006, 09:23 PM
extinctionspasm   Just to add some info to some previous posts. I al...   Nov 26 2006, 05:07 AM
Zenofied   Just to add some info to some previous posts. I a...   Jul 20 2009, 08:56 AM
denk75   I believe Jesus was a man. The stories in the new ...   Nov 27 2006, 02:49 PM
Gopendra   Jesus Christ was and is the master of teachers,He ...   Dec 29 2006, 04:16 AM
Aunt Clair   During my internet years, I found info like Jesus ...   Feb 7 2007, 08:43 AM
Rishi Bhrigu   Salutations.There is reason to believe that Jesus ...   Feb 7 2007, 12:03 PM
Enochian   Balance. Jesus was a MAN sent to return balance to...   Feb 8 2007, 04:08 PM
Care.Bear   Dan Browns book IS fiction Jesus Christ is the Mes...   Feb 9 2007, 11:19 PM
Imoe   According to muslim tradition, Jesus or Hazrat Isa...   Nov 28 2007, 11:17 AM
Ankhhape   I am certain that Yeshua was not the Son of God an...   Apr 19 2009, 08:34 PM
Xenomancer   http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p130/thexenoman...   Apr 22 2009, 07:14 PM
Djinn Shiva   I don't think Jesus the Christ even existed in...   Apr 22 2009, 07:16 PM
Umbra Euri   Considering that there is little to no evidence of...   May 10 2009, 09:35 PM
valkyrie   ouch! i'm not even christian and that stun...   May 11 2009, 10:55 AM
ShinobiBombay   New guy here. I believe that Jesus is exactly who ...   May 11 2009, 10:19 AM
Aunt Clair   I do not think we create the Godhead because we ha...   Sep 11 2009, 05:24 AM
grim789   AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT????????? Ok i am not 100% sure...   Nov 8 2009, 12:07 AM
Hybrid Theory   [size=5]AHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT????????? Ok i am not ...   Nov 8 2009, 11:02 AM
grim789   Hey Grim, Although the Bible declares there is on...   Nov 8 2009, 11:16 AM
Kath   I am a former devout 'born again' christia...   Nov 8 2009, 12:16 PM
Relikhan   I think Jesus was a Magician... A man who was bles...   Nov 22 2009, 02:15 AM
plainsight   According to Christianity, Jesus was God and man, ...   Dec 12 2009, 08:41 AM

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