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Lightning777
post Sep 12 2007, 07:08 AM
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Peace be to you,
I'm still in the begining stages of learning enochian magick and it formulae. I'm just getting a handle on the pyramids and their acompanying egyption God-forms. Correct me if this isn't right; basically one is using a particular egyptian godform to command the angels (elementals?) of a specific square or pyramid yes? I'm wondering if one could use Jesus(yeshua) in place of an egyptian diety and still have the system function properly. As with most spiritual sciences, It's usually a matter of faith, whatever deity you choose to put your faith in. So.. I'm thinking why not? There is a chance that enochian spirits could be tormented by this method so I'm not so sure.
I've always thought of creating a "chritianized" form of Magick that would be more adaptable to others like myself from that background.
This would be helpful in using systems where the pantheons of pagan Gods & Godesses are being predominately used as the base.
I've already had some sucess with this "substitution of God names" with things like the Key-word, and the BRH. I will definately NOT TRY THIS with Enochian rituals until my knowledge and understanding of the system is more complete. I just wanted to hear any feedback any of you who have more experience with the system may have on this Idea of mine, or any feedback at all is welcome.

"forever experimenting"
Thanks Love & Light

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post May 25 2009, 07:07 PM
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Its been disputed if Jesus was "God" or not. One can certainly try an evocation and see what happens.

I forget which grimoire ws it that uses the name Jesus to control demons.
Anyone knows?

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post Jul 21 2009, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(Jenfucius @ May 25 2009, 09:07 PM) *

Its been disputed if Jesus was "God" or not. One can certainly try an evocation and see what happens.

I forget which grimoire ws it that uses the name Jesus to control demons.
Anyone knows?


Hey Jenifucious,
sorry for the wayy late response as I haven't been here in quite a while. Well I know many of the medeival texts use Yeshua's Name for protection and to control whatever, and of course the Bible has a few instances where others outside the apostles group were using his name to cast them out; ex: "when they told him they saw a stranger using his name to cast out devils and said they forbade him to do so as he wasn't one of them,
Jesus replied, "No don't forbid him... that anyone who is not against him, is for him" -it's in one of the gospels.
And I can tell you first hand I've personally cast out several demons in his name from a few people in my lifetime.
That whats leads me to believe one might be able to comamand ANY sprit by his name.
Some where else it also says " rejoice not that the spirits are subject unto thee, but rather that your names are written in the lambs book of life" or some translations have; "in heaven". ...thats what led me to the line of thinking Jesus as the ultimate God form. But as many of the far more experienced mages have sugested to me here. that the Christforce could and very well might totally anialate the forces all togther. I guess his name can ALWAYS be called upon if one were to "bite off something bigger than they could chew" as it were lol. I am sure one could NOT comamand the HOLY angels in his name to do ANYTHING contrary to his will in that persons or anothers life.
But then again the True Holy angels WILL NOT perform anything outside of Gods will for your Life.
Like winning Lotto numbers for example. Now if it were his will for you to get rich instantly..then possibly.
I think the Goetics would be more apt to perform things like that.. But they will want something in return I'm sure..
I hope this shed some light for you...Love and Light

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