Yay! Or Nay! To Drugs?, pros and cons of using mind altering drugs for magical purposes Options

Forget right and wrong....do drugs help or hinder the magical process????

as loosely defined by our dear friend Wikipedia (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) a drug is:

"any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function"

I've narrowed it down to 'mind altering' in the description column but by no means do I wish to exclude even minor drugs like aspirin or even caffeine...because we all know that these ultimately affect the 'state' in which we perform our various agendas.

i have so many questions that could be answered.

how do drugs, (and which drugs) help the process?
is it necessary to use drugs to obtain an experience, or certain experience, for some people?
do drugs hurt or help ALL spiritual practices, or only certain ones? which ones are these?
which drugs are better, which drugs are worse for magick purposes?
do some of you use drugs ONLY during a ritual...or do you uses it for recreational purposes as well?
if you use drugs to induce certain experiences, do you feel like every time and every experience is valid?
How can you distinguish true from false, and what is the consistent mentality behind accepting what you experience?
do drugs open up gates, or do they tear down the walls of your mind, or do they close doors?
what is the theory behind the spiritual quality of drugs (or perception thereof)?

i am eager to hear what you guys have to say!!!!


(ooops. look like there was already a post like this. sorry guys. i have no idea how to unpost this...nvm haha.)
I like the topic, so I'll keep it up unless the author strenuously objects or a mod rules otherwise...-Bym

This post has been edited by bym: May 13 2009, 11:27 AM

inhale,,,,exhale,,,decide that i dont know what i know and if i had a chance i'd give it another go, put the smoke down just for a moment i hold it my lungs feel swolen and golden, inside the mind iposses i find, a creepy substrate, as eerie as eye. you can feel your body tingle and shake with the power of the sun moon breath and earth shakes. then in your eyes you begin to see the strangeness of what is sobriety, a crutch to live in, a land to see, your insane now mad for eternity, thoughts become rapid confused and tragic, fire leaps from water everything seems magick, why what and how could this be, such a state to be in is this reality? after hours days months eaons and years, the faire winds stop and this dream leaves in your fears, it lives in your pores skin soaked to the floor, what had been before is now evermore, the omnipresent presence of what always is and shall be, contorts what you see now as truth and reality, your dead, your death, it was tragic like the rest, and as a new sun rises the resurrection besets.

iii