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Dancing Coyote
post Jan 16 2009, 02:45 AM
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I've been reading this section and it seems filled with, "how do I do this in the first place?" So I'm going to go out and post my favored techniques and if any of you have questions feel free to ask. If any of the other more experienced practitioners have anything to add, subtract, or anything inbetween please do so.

To astrially travel it's best you have a clean space to work in, meaning somewhere comfortable and (if you're somewhat of an experienced practitioner) shielding on the space your in, and on oneself. Your body needs to be in the SAFEST place you can think of, for obvious reasons. Next you'll have to comfort yourself, getting into the mind-frame of abstract thought because you'll need it in that other realm. I usually look at some art previously, to grease the mental filters.

We got the basic prep work out of the way, now for the meat of the conquest. I find it easiest (and most comfortable) to lie down somewhere dark, some find it best if they're in the Lotus position, or their general meditation stance; whatever works for you. Now remember to keep your eyes closed, using your mental acuity and abstract thought to "project" your body into your immediate surroundings. Some say it's easiest to do some deep breathing and count down from Ten to Zero very slowly, with each number your energetic body starts moving outside the physical one, at Zero you should be fully outside of the body. This may take a few tries. The most common thing I hear from people traveling astrially is that they see their energetic body from the third person, this is normal. If the steps have worked you should be looking at your physical body meditating in your vicinity, some people freak out at this stage and jump back in their bodies realizing "I can do it!"

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Patients is the key, not everyone gets this on their first try. If one does succeed there are some warnings and things you should know in the field. You can ALWAYS find your body, think of a silver cord stretching from your physical body and your energetic body. If you should feel the need to come home simply pluck that chord like a guitar string and you'll find yourself back in your body with a jolt. Always remember not to eat or drink anything on your journeys, that would be a very bad thing. If you need an example think Pan's Labyrinth...


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post Sep 19 2009, 10:40 PM
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I'm not amused.

Good, because I'm not kidding.

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You can take my words with a grain of salt. I don't understand how you can say you're getting no results in one topic and give advice on the subjects you're having no results with.

Are you that forgetful to the hermetic principles of "As above, So below; as within, so without?" All things are analogues of one another. It is in realizing this that one achieves a sense of oneness. From this premise, by looking at any one single thing, one may come onto revelations of a seemingly unrelated thing. This is how divination starts!

My lack of ability to execute the actual deed of astral projection is one thing. I am not arguing the execution of the technique. I am openly admitting to not knowing how as to actually doing that.

It is the nuances of interaction and sociological profile of the astral that seems to be debatable. You gave excellent information as to the execution of projection, but gave no real basis on why the astral seems to be as scary as a place as you make it out to be. Otherwise, the projection mechanics seem sound.

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I don't see any real questions here it just seems like you're trying to be funny by saying I'm contradicting myself.

Not my goal at all, friend! More often than not, when people seemingly contradict themselves, it is because they leave out a bit of contextual nuance to help those who don't know. Otherwise, it goes over our heads!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

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As above is below, we eat and nourish ourselves to stay in this world. I'm not going to verify your 'supernatural experience' for you, I'm just trying to warn people who are new and aid their progress.

Understood. Noted. Acknowledged. When I get there, I will conduct experiments myself, keeping your warnings in mind.

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I've found it to be a very bad idea to eat in any spirit world, you think you can go down there and be treated like a normal person which is ignorant on your part.

Are you asking if I think that way, or are you making that assumption for me?

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Usually Spirits of any nature are jealous of the ability to exist in the physical to the degree we do. They see it as an insult when we 'drop by' in the only form they're capable of, fully expecting them to amuse us.

Part in blue, I understand completely.

NOW that you put that into context, it seems feasible that such dangers may arise on the astral, on the basis of jealousy and spite. This is the context that I was referring to earlier. Without a premise established before the fact, the listener/reader will just see inconsistencies. Thank you for giving me the bit I was looking for! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The red part... I'm not so sure about. Do astral beings really think that we see them as amusement?

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Also Spirits of the dead find living just as mysterious as we find death, thus creating problems.

Interpreted implied premise: Spirits of the dead inhabit the astral.
Counter premise: I always understood that spirits of the dead did not inhabit the astral per se, but rather one between the astral and the physical, like a -limbo- of sorts.

Also, what kind of problems may arise from a mutual sense of mysteriousness? Or did you mean to word your statement differently?

Again, I do not by any means mean to mock! I am trying to honestly learn, and listen! As I said before, without stated premises before the fact, I get confused!

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Subtly, like a slight shimmer over the skin.

Almost like a galvanization? Like a weak voltage current through the skin?

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post Sep 20 2009, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(Xenomancer @ Sep 19 2009, 11:40 PM) *

Good, because I'm not kidding.
Are you that forgetful to the hermetic principles of "As above, So below; as within, so without?" All things are analogues of one another. It is in realizing this that one achieves a sense of oneness. From this premise, by looking at any one single thing, one may come onto revelations of a seemingly unrelated thing. This is how divination starts!

My lack of ability to execute the actual deed of astral projection is one thing. I am not arguing the execution of the technique. I am openly admitting to not knowing how as to actually doing that.

It is the nuances of interaction and sociological profile of the astral that seems to be debatable. You gave excellent information as to the execution of projection, but gave no real basis on why the astral seems to be as scary as a place as you make it out to be. Otherwise, the projection mechanics seem sound.
Not my goal at all, friend! More often than not, when people seemingly contradict themselves, it is because they leave out a bit of contextual nuance to help those who don't know. Otherwise, it goes over our heads!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)
Understood. Noted. Acknowledged. When I get there, I will conduct experiments myself, keeping your warnings in mind.
Are you asking if I think that way, or are you making that assumption for me?
Part in blue, I understand completely.

NOW that you put that into context, it seems feasible that such dangers may arise on the astral, on the basis of jealousy and spite. This is the context that I was referring to earlier. Without a premise established before the fact, the listener/reader will just see inconsistencies. Thank you for giving me the bit I was looking for! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

The red part... I'm not so sure about. Do astral beings really think that we see them as amusement?
Interpreted implied premise: Spirits of the dead inhabit the astral.
Counter premise: I always understood that spirits of the dead did not inhabit the astral per se, but rather one between the astral and the physical, like a -limbo- of sorts.

Also, what kind of problems may arise from a mutual sense of mysteriousness? Or did you mean to word your statement differently?

Again, I do not by any means mean to mock! I am trying to honestly learn, and listen! As I said before, without stated premises before the fact, I get confused!

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Almost like a galvanization? Like a weak voltage current through the skin?


I don't want to argue, and I'm glad you've taken an interest in astrial projection.

I've also found that spirits of the dead inhabit a parallel plane to that of the astrial.



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Dancing Coyote   How To: Astrial Travel   Jan 16 2009, 02:45 AM
Shogunronin   Are you 100% sure this is safe? I've never app...   Jan 16 2009, 02:23 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Are you 100% sure this is safe? I've never ap...   Jan 16 2009, 03:14 PM
Dancing Coyote   Are you 100% sure this is safe? I've never ap...   Jan 16 2009, 03:51 PM
Shogunronin   Okay I just been practicing again with the techniq...   Jan 16 2009, 04:18 PM
clips   Thanks for the tips, i've tried it a couple of...   May 6 2009, 04:13 PM
Dancing Coyote   Thanks for the tips, i've tried it a couple o...   May 6 2009, 04:32 PM
clips   If it's sleep you're having difficulty wi...   May 6 2009, 07:01 PM
Dancing Coyote   Ok I understand what you mean now. I'll try t...   May 7 2009, 01:21 AM
GarnetRose   I've been reading this section and it seems f...   Aug 7 2009, 10:05 PM
Dancing Coyote   I'm relatively new to this practice. I'v...   Aug 8 2009, 12:40 AM
Xenomancer   What is the potential harm of receiving a gift o...   Aug 8 2009, 12:08 PM
Dancing Coyote   What is the potential harm of receiving a gift on...   Aug 8 2009, 01:15 PM
Xenomancer   I still don't understand what you mean. Plea...   Aug 8 2009, 06:40 PM
Dancing Coyote   I still don't understand what you mean. Pleas...   Aug 8 2009, 07:40 PM
Mchawi   Hello Dancing. I am now in the air grade of cerim...   Sep 17 2009, 04:50 PM
Dancing Coyote   Hello Dancing. I am now in the air grade of ceri...   Sep 18 2009, 02:49 PM
Xenomancer   You have a 'gift' from something that li...   Sep 17 2009, 09:57 PM
Dancing Coyote   You have a 'gift' from something that lik...   Sep 18 2009, 03:19 PM
Aphrodite   I’ve heard from multiple reputable sources that wh...   Sep 18 2009, 12:15 AM
Xenomancer   I'm the same way. Once I get to the dual-tor...   Sep 18 2009, 02:51 PM
Aphrodite   I'm the same way. Once I get to the dual-toro...   Sep 18 2009, 05:09 PM
Dancing Coyote   That’s a good technique I’ve tried something simi...   Sep 18 2009, 07:16 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Coyote, Xenomancer is a Gemini and has to have a f...   Sep 20 2009, 08:45 AM
Dancing Coyote   Coyote, Xenomancer is a Gemini and has to have a ...   Sep 20 2009, 12:09 PM
Xenomancer   Like a Dark Night of the Soul, for instance, Hmm?...   Sep 20 2009, 10:49 AM
Aphrodite   I'm a Libra. :ohyeah:   Sep 20 2009, 11:23 PM
Mchawi   Yeah... got to check your charts are done in sider...   Sep 21 2009, 06:44 PM
Goibniu   I agree that you shouldn't accept gifts or foo...   Sep 21 2009, 10:05 PM
grim789   First off i would like to thank Dancing Coyote for...   Nov 8 2009, 01:19 AM
Dancing Coyote   First off i would like to thank Dancing Coyote fo...   Nov 8 2009, 01:43 AM
grim789   I'm glad you've found some use out of my ...   Nov 8 2009, 11:04 AM
Jeraph   First, I'd like to thank coyote for their advi...   Feb 9 2011, 07:44 AM
Dancing Coyote   First, I'd like to thank coyote for their adv...   Feb 11 2011, 04:00 PM

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