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post Aug 19 2009, 09:37 AM
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As I might have mentioned, I did an astral evocation of Paimon 4 or so months back. It was to bind some problems in a younger brother's behaviour. In terms of Paimon showing up, it definitely worked. I had mental verbal response from him, and exactly the kind of arrogance regarding the offering that Imperial mentions in his LiveJournal account.

For about two months after that, although for the most part I got the result I wanted, (Jeremy is still mildly obnoxious, but nothing I can't handle) things went fine, to the point where I forgot about the evocation.

Then about two months ago, I temporarily moved in with a guy in Melbourne who had emotional instability problems. One night I had the thought of re-summoning Paimon in order to bind this guy's anger, entirely randomly...and Paimon came back. The binding of that guy's anger though, for the most part didn't work. He was still unstable, and still yelled at me and was verbally abusive at times.

After that, however, I started having problems. The first thing I noticed was, whenever I'd try and do Japa, (mantra repetition) I'd suddenly be hit with paranoia about how similar Kali's (my patron) imagery is to some of the imagery that I've seen of Baphomet. I apparently still have psychological baggage where Satanism is concerned, and so for a little while, that really threw me for a loop.

The way I solved that problem though was by forcing myself to really focus on Baphomet for a few minutes at one point when I was being hit with that, in order to convince myself once and for all how different they were. I started getting back some really black energy which literally nearly caused me to vomit, and immediately stopped that. I then focused on how Kali has only ever made me feel positive, and gave license to depart, and for the most part, that problem has been solved since.

The other area however, where Paimon has really been attacking me hard, is the Faustian angle. There have been times where I have degenerated into a seething mass of fear and paranoia about the state of my soul, and I even actually had a fairly vivid dream only a few nights back where a supposedly "psychic" woman told me that a) I was going to die due to being stung by a massive swarm of bees the next day, and b) that I was going to Hell for having evoked Paimon. She was particularly mocking and vindictive; it wasn't a good experience.

The way that I've been mediating that is by continually repeating to myself either, "Tat Vam Asi," (that thou art) or simply, "my soul is my own." To some extent that works, but I'd be lying if I said it has completely. What really sent me into a psychological tailspin about a week ago though was when I read someone quoting Bardon on pacts on another forum.

In case anyone is wondering whether or not I've been banishing, yes, I have. I banish, and/or give License to Depart. Either one will work, but generally only for 24 hours, and then he's back. I made offering to Kali three or so days ago, and prayed to her about the problem, and felt that I got back the message that he would be taken care of. For said three days I've had peace, and so I gave a mental sigh of relief, thinking that the problem was finally solved.

When I woke up just a few hours ago, however, I felt a distinct presence in my bedroom. No accompanying thoughts; just a sense of unease in the pit of my stomach. I mentally gave Paimon License to Depart...and the feeling immediately went.

So how do I permanently get rid of him? I'm wondering if the real problem is the fact that aside from the initial bread and beer during the first evocation, I've never given him offerings of any kind. He actually asked for one a couple of times when I asked him to bind that former housemate's temper, but I still didn't, because I had thought that by the terms of Solomon's covenant with the spirits, I didn't need to. I also drew the Seal of Solomon during the initial evocation, so even though it was informal, I considered him bound by those terms. I had a particularly strong mental image of him attempting to break through a large astral/mental projection of that seal which was between him and me, during the evocation, but he was unable to.

I also, however, haven't made a permanent version of the seal, and according to someone else I've spoken to on another forum, that is what you must do in order to appease Goetics if they successfully fulfil a request, even though I never saw any mention of needing to do that for the sake of reward specifically, in the Lesser Key, although I know you are meant to make permanent seals for the purposes of the evocation itself. So I had been under the impression that you don't actually have to reward them in any way.

So...any advice? I know Bym is probably going to chew me out for this, and I also acknowledge that I deserve it, but at this point, I just want to know how to get rid of Paimon for good.


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post Oct 5 2009, 10:42 AM
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Paimon doesnt like people that winge and complain LOL (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

no serously you are porobley imagining things. I doubt he cares less for the stupid request about human relations and getting a sibling to shut the hell up.

If Paimon actually took the time to do all these things I would be deaply moved and make him my life long familiar hahaha
at the moment I have never met Paimon and dont know how he operates.

but I have done similar things like call up a daemon for some troubles with neighbors and fogot about it and months later seen them have the worst of luck lost everything and had to move out but cant really say it was because of me. just coincidence probley.

I think you should go with the flow. just evoke him again to investigate. if you feel the need to offer sacrafice than feel free. If you feel like he feels disrespected you will know. dont make it too long keep it short okay.

it would be bad to hold a 1 hour meeting to explain why you think you upset him. this would just make things worse.


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