Beauty And The Beast Options

The dream started with me floating in an ocean at night. There was no land in sight in any direction. The sky overhead was clear as can be, with the milky way and moon both shining brightly, and reflecting off the surface of the calm water. The water below seemed equally infinite, but dark and unseen. In a way they were mirror opposites, one showing visibly a sight into infinity, the other murky and unseen but no less infinite.

I became aware that I was not alone. My then-fiance was with me. (I'll call him my fiance for proper context at the time of this dream. he's currently an ex fiance though). He was disconcerted about the depths, both above and below, and about the lack of land. I myself was very much in harmony with this setting, and very much enjoying it with a sense of childlike awe.

From beneath us rose a shape in the water. It was a pale white color, almost luminous in the murky water, and could only be seen as it came quite close to the surface, so as to be illuminated by the moonlight. As it came closer up under us, it's scale became obvious. It was huge, larger than a whale, and it looked kinda like a giant squid. I immediately recognized it's "feel" though, and knew it to be my patron (albeit in a strange form).

I was completely elated to see her, particularly in such a beautiful setting. My fiance was frightened, and tried to swim away. I let him, and waited for this giant squid, who was my true beloved, to get close enough to touch. Eventually my fiance swam off into the distance and I didn't hear him anymore. Meanwhile my patron breeched the surface beneath me, and I rested on top of her, embracing her odd form in a hug. I was very glad to share such an idyllic scene with her.

Then I held on tight, and she went fact through the water like a 500ft long jet ski. Water sprayed up on either side of me, and glistened in the moonlight. It was very picturesque. It vaguely reminded me of the scene in Dune where they ride the spice worms. The overwhelming sense of scale was similar. It was interesting that despite a sense of scale which should have been extremely intimidating, I felt nothing but the most intense intimacy. Size or form meant nothing. She and I played in the water for some time before I woke up.


It contains plenty of symbolism, psychological, spiritual, emotional, it foreshadows the course of my actual relationship quite well too. It's a fond memory, as dreams go. And while I feel that the water and sky and fiance were all just 'dream content', my patron was very much really 'in' the dream with me, sharing my dreamscape.

This post has been edited by Kath: Oct 14 2009, 10:14 AM

God you're smart... marry me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Seriously though you have a way of articulating your ideas that is very rare among the hundreds if not thousands of people I have experienced through web forums... hell even real life!

I guess I didn't realize that you weren't really seeking an interpretation. When ever I come to this section most people are looking for some kind of explaination behind their dreams... So add in a little sleep deprivation and I just followed my instincts and just interpreted your dream even though you just wanted to share a dream!

It does sound like it was quite the spiritual encounter. Now that I know of your deep and intimate relationship with your patron I would definately say the dream was more spiritual than psychological. I know you said you are quite capable of interpreting your own dreams, I hope maybe at least something I said was useful and I also hope you don't think that I think my interpretations are some how better. If you understand the symbolisms of your dreams that's all that really matters!

In the end, I figured out that arguing with an omniscient being is a little irrational.

Yeah I had to laugh at that remark. Thinking about it sort of puts people in their place. We toil and build such wonderful technologies and a society based on science while forgetting we are barely infants in an infanite multiverse.

Also, the whole thing reflects my feeling, after a LOT of time out of body, being essentially polymorphic myself, and interacting with all sorts of entities... her appearance reflects my feeling that "form is meaningless". Not even my sense of sexual attraction is based on form anymore. It's perhaps a counterintuitive development for someone who's a bit of an artist. Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. And it doesn't have a shape unless you give it one. I love Her. If her "true form" (not that she actually has such a thing), was a giant sea monster... then I'd be perfectly happy with that, even on a romantic level. And the dream does sort of reflect that in a way.

I do see what you mean. After praticing lucid dreaming and astral travel it is easy to learn to ignore unnecessary "basics"; working with a form on the astral level really doesn't have much form and working with out one in many ways can be more liberating. It makes it easier for the self to sort of dissociate from the human node and embrace a greater "unknowable" spiritual level. And to not only achieve that state but experience a diety with such passion its also easy to understand that form is meaningless and true love knows no form. Its an admirable quality to have really.

Personally, I view the dream as somewhat preparatory, or even prophetic, in regards to my relationship with my then fiance.

If there was any psychological relevance to your dream I think this last sentence sums it up. I think spiritually and subconcsiously you already knew the relationship was at a dead end and this is your brain's sort of way of letting you know about it as a way to sort of cushin the fall.