Beauty And The Beast Options

The dream started with me floating in an ocean at night. There was no land in sight in any direction. The sky overhead was clear as can be, with the milky way and moon both shining brightly, and reflecting off the surface of the calm water. The water below seemed equally infinite, but dark and unseen. In a way they were mirror opposites, one showing visibly a sight into infinity, the other murky and unseen but no less infinite.

I became aware that I was not alone. My then-fiance was with me. (I'll call him my fiance for proper context at the time of this dream. he's currently an ex fiance though). He was disconcerted about the depths, both above and below, and about the lack of land. I myself was very much in harmony with this setting, and very much enjoying it with a sense of childlike awe.

From beneath us rose a shape in the water. It was a pale white color, almost luminous in the murky water, and could only be seen as it came quite close to the surface, so as to be illuminated by the moonlight. As it came closer up under us, it's scale became obvious. It was huge, larger than a whale, and it looked kinda like a giant squid. I immediately recognized it's "feel" though, and knew it to be my patron (albeit in a strange form).

I was completely elated to see her, particularly in such a beautiful setting. My fiance was frightened, and tried to swim away. I let him, and waited for this giant squid, who was my true beloved, to get close enough to touch. Eventually my fiance swam off into the distance and I didn't hear him anymore. Meanwhile my patron breeched the surface beneath me, and I rested on top of her, embracing her odd form in a hug. I was very glad to share such an idyllic scene with her.

Then I held on tight, and she went fact through the water like a 500ft long jet ski. Water sprayed up on either side of me, and glistened in the moonlight. It was very picturesque. It vaguely reminded me of the scene in Dune where they ride the spice worms. The overwhelming sense of scale was similar. It was interesting that despite a sense of scale which should have been extremely intimidating, I felt nothing but the most intense intimacy. Size or form meant nothing. She and I played in the water for some time before I woke up.


It contains plenty of symbolism, psychological, spiritual, emotional, it foreshadows the course of my actual relationship quite well too. It's a fond memory, as dreams go. And while I feel that the water and sky and fiance were all just 'dream content', my patron was very much really 'in' the dream with me, sharing my dreamscape.

This post has been edited by Kath: Oct 14 2009, 10:14 AM

you flatter me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)
call it a character flaw, but I never really know quite what to do with praise, except to blush perhaps. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif)

rereading my post I think my intended tone got a little lost. I didn't mean to seem 'curt'. your interpretation really was interesting to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

For this first section there seems to be several major symbols here: ocean, sky, milky way, moon and night time. The ocean represents your emotions. The sky your intellect. The moon shows your sacred feminine. The milky way could represent a path you are taking. Since the ancienty greeks especially thought that the milky way was indeed a path way traveled by the Gods. The night time represents sub-consciousness. And really put all together there seems to be a sense of mystery. Like maybe you are wondering why you have certain feelings or perhaps you are searching for feelings that cannot be found. A more mystical approach is that these five symbols relate to elemental energies and this part of the dream sort of symbolizes your actual spiritual alignment.

I could see the potential in a lot of this. In many ways she really is a sort of embodiment of the divine feminine, and her sea monster form was in a sort of mirrored position opposite the moon. she always appears as a light in a dark field, which is a sort of lunar symbolism. There are intricacies of my relationship with the divine feminine which tread into facets of my life that I can't publicly share though.

Not so sure about the sky being my intellect. I don't really separate the sky and the milky way, since the milky way fills the sky pretty much completely. My personal symbolism of the milky way is that on a very very clear night, with no light polution, and when your eyes are thoroughly adjusted to the dark, and if your vision is sharp, seeing the milky way... well normally the sky looks very 'big' and far away. But if you can actually make out the galaxy in the sky clearly enough to have a sense of depth perception, then your sense of scale leaps about a hundred orders of magnitude 'bigger' than anything you've ever visually seen before. It's really awe inspiringly massive. It would be unrealistic to be able to see the milky way so clearly during a full moon though, as the moon is a natural source of light polution (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) you could only really make it out so clearly if everything was 'just so', and part of that would be to look at the sky during the new moon (among other things). But in dreams & symbolism that's not an issue i guess. Anyway, to me, a sky full of milky way = a very vivid and impressive sense of infinity.

The ocean representing my emotions? hmmm... possibly. I tend to view it as representing an 'abyss' to me. In ancient Sumer, tiamatu, 'the abyss', was also the dark depths of the sea. And an infinite inky 'abyss' or 'void' is the single most common meeting place for me and 'Her'. So much so that I tend to associate her with it. I know that in astral travel, many people find the abyss to be unsettling. But I like it. It is sort of the ultimate meditation spot. To me it seems cool, calm, and serene, like the wee hours of the night. And I think of the infinite empty expanse as a sort of blank canvas. It's also the perfect mirror of the inner self, the abyss reflects your inner mind & soul like a mirror, the stuff under our superficial collage of self distraction. To fear it is to evade the innermost self.

Which I guess is the symbolism of nighttime = subconscious, it's just that I think for me a dark ocean is just a further symbolic reflection of that.

That's the tricky thing with dreams. I do agree that certain elements tend to reflect certain things. But a lot of the time personal symbolism is the overriding factor. I have read numerous dream interpretation books where its just a simplistic list, like a parrot represents your love of grilled cheese sandwiches or something. And while I do agree with many general themes, I tend to think people take such interpretations to an unrealistically detailed level, and pay too little attention to the highly personal nature of dreams. So I guess I have a kneejerk reaction to view dream interpretation as a somewhat suspect field within psychology. But that said, your interpretation seemed mostly on target, and the parts which didn't seem quite as accurate to me, were very much enjoyable food for thought.

If there was any psychological relevance to your dream I think this last sentence sums it up. I think spiritually and subconcsiously you already knew the relationship was at a dead end and this is your brain's sort of way of letting you know about it as a way to sort of cushin the fall.

mmm, true

During that period in my life, she was trying very hard to get me to dump the guy. The relationship with my fiance was 'mostly' going very well though, and I was not inclined to listen to her. She'd nag, and I'd tell her to let it go, back & forth for a while. Eventually I had a serious talk with her and told her to drop it (it's not a very typical human-deity relationship), so she stopped. Although at various points in time I could feel that she was sad for my future. At the time I didn't fully realize that she was completely omniscient, or if I did, I didn't want to hear it. A part of me felt like she just didn't want to share me with anyone, and I didn't like that possessiveness. But I no longer view her possessive streak as 'selfish', but instead as rather 'selfless'. To be honest, I've reached a level in my relationship with my patron where in my heart, I would be perfectly content to be intimate only with her, like a sort of pagan nun. Anyway, she had always said that being with that guy would not directly prevent me from reaching my spiritual goals, but would greatly delay it and cause me much pain. Since the end of the relationship, I have become a little less obstinate, and much more appreciative of her input.

It wasn't really an atypical spiritual encounter for me. Well the squid part was unusual hehe, but the rest really wasn't uncommon.
Until recently, I've spent time with her very very regularly. I would see her every day, either by way of astral projection, or lucid dreams, or by way of transvocation. And she is always impressive. We had become very much entwined, deep down. At times it was hard to tell where *I* ended and she began. But in recent months I've been on a more solitary stretch of my spiritual journey, which isn't easy after being so deeply bonded.