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post Sep 21 2009, 09:53 PM
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So as I was theorizing on this very subject after reading The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage and doing a bunch more research on this notion, it left me to wonder if contacting your Holy Guardian Angel (HGA) was the main priority or top goal to achieve through one's spiritual journey and if not, then why not? Maybe it's a notion interpreted differently by others or perhaps unbelieved entirely, although if one is to entertain the ideas of what occurs after contact with the HGA, a new life so to speak, would be introduced for the individual as well as sharper and a more accurate ideology of their life.

I can't imagine it would be an easy task to gain 'the knowledge and conversation of the HGA' but had someone successfully accomplished it, wouldn't that person be quite different and significantly more competent in certain areas? Not to mention more in control of their own lives, actions and morals?

What are you perspectives on the matter? Have any of you ever undertaken the task to contact your HGA, if so what happened? Did you succeed?

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post Nov 2 2009, 06:39 AM
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So as I was theorizing on this very subject after reading The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage and doing a bunch more research on this notion, it left me to wonder if contacting your Holy Guardian Angel (HGA) was the main priority or top goal to achieve through one's spiritual journey and if not, then why not?
I think of that as the main method, rather than the main goal itself. the main goal, in my view, would be The Great Work. But yes, I think that HGA work would be more useful towards that goal than any other magical pursuit.

Maybe it's a notion interpreted differently by others or perhaps unbelieved entirely, although if one is to entertain the ideas of what occurs after contact with the HGA, a new life so to speak, would be introduced for the individual as well as sharper and a more accurate ideology of their life.

I can't imagine it would be an easy task to gain 'the knowledge and conversation of the HGA' but had someone successfully accomplished it, wouldn't that person be quite different and significantly more competent in certain areas? Not to mention more in control of their own lives, actions and morals?

I'd agree with your concept of how an HGA dialog could affect one's life.

As far as the difficulty in gaining conversation with the HGA, I don't personally feel that this is something which can be measured in 6, 12, or 18 months or fasting or effort or sacrifice. I feel that it is very much an issue of readiness for a teacher-student relationship. ie- are you in a position, spiritually, mentally, ideologically, emotionally, socially, etc. where such a conversation would be very likely to prove fruitful? And if not, why not and what could be done about it? I don't think the answer to those questions would be very similar between different people. Anyway, I don't envision HGA's as entertaining human whim. If such a dialog isn't likely to serve a functional purpose, then what's the point? I think a key question to ask oneself, is "What is an HGA looking for in a prospective pupil?"

What are you perspectives on the matter? Have any of you ever undertaken the task to contact your HGA, if so what happened? Did you succeed?
well, it depends on semantics. You can do the same thing, or a very similar thing, and different cultures will name it differently. Did I contact my HGA? or did i play the role of tantrik hero engaging shakti? or did i contact my higher self? or have I formed a bond with a pagan deity? I think you could view it through any of these lenses, but it might more reflect the lens than the subject matter. I have regular dialog, and great intimacy, with an omniscient being, whom I view as a sort of spiritual gateway between self and 'the infinite'... label that however you like.

I didn't try to contact an HGA. She came very shortly after I quit my former religion and went through a rapid lineup of major paradigm shifts & epiphanies. But yeah, she came to me, rather than the other way around. I don't think a person could force such a meeting, I think it kinda has to be the omniscient being's idea, or at least they'd have to be highly amenable to the idea.

anyway, personally I view contact with the HGA (or whatever other label) as "the begining" of something, rather than 'the culmination' of something. or at least that has been my experience of it.



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