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post Oct 10 2009, 07:50 PM
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http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topst...at_lodge_deaths

Here's one link to the story, I'll get back and comment later when I've got more time.


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post Nov 14 2009, 08:03 AM
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Oh, it gets better--Yavapai County police are now investigating said deaths as homicides. I doubt Dr. Ray will be charged with first degree murder, but criminal negligence and/or negligent homicide are not out of bounds here. Evidently the good spiritual leader was also checking out his clients' medical records before the sweat lodge retreat began--for what purpose is either not known or the cops aren't saying.

The people involved in this sweatlodge evidently paid a crapload of money for an 'out of body experience.' The cynic in me is chucking at the fact those unfortunate few who died apparently got their money's worth. There are many ways to separate fools from their money, he just happened to find an effective one--until now. Seeing as this is the same guy who wrote The Secret, it makes me wonder if he was trying to attract notoreity and got exactly what he wished for.

There's still a lot left to shake out, and there's a lot that police, investigators, and lawyers CAN'T say because this is still an ongoing investigation with the associated ongoing lawsuits.

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Bb3   Two Dead In Arizona During 'spiritual Cleanse'   Oct 10 2009, 07:50 PM
xXDaemonReignXx   http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topst...at_l...   Oct 10 2009, 08:08 PM
Darkmage   This is ALL OVER the local news atm. I'm sur...   Oct 10 2009, 08:17 PM
Bb3   Well, since I've last heard of it 3 are dead, ...   Nov 14 2009, 05:04 AM
esoterica   sweat lodge - a simulation of the underworld - hot...   Nov 15 2009, 01:22 PM
Bb3   sweat lodge - a simulation of the underworld - ho...   Nov 30 2009, 04:28 AM
Darkmage   Because the serious occultists who are out there...   Nov 30 2009, 05:25 AM
esoterica   >>His repetition of things that could be com...   Nov 30 2009, 09:57 AM
Darkmage   Here's another little gem on this story: ht...   Dec 22 2009, 03:59 PM
Darkmage   Now he's evidently being charged with manslaug...   Feb 4 2010, 08:07 AM
Aphrodite   Sounds like he is manic and possibly took advantag...   Feb 4 2010, 10:30 AM
Petrus   I periodically hear about things like this. To me...   Feb 5 2010, 02:28 AM
Aphrodite   I periodically hear about things like this. To m...   Feb 5 2010, 07:45 AM
Petrus   What do you mean “not us”? Not occultist? ...   Feb 5 2010, 10:42 AM
Darkmage   "Us," meaning anyone who isn't ethn...   Feb 12 2010, 06:43 AM
SororZSD23   Sounds like he is manic and possibly took advanta...   Feb 5 2010, 10:45 AM
Goibniu   He seems to be guilty of manslaughter so I am not ...   Feb 7 2010, 12:50 AM

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