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post Aug 26 2009, 01:34 PM
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why they say that the Necronicon is fake and at the same time it can be very dangerous?

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post Dec 4 2009, 08:08 AM
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The Necronomicon is a fake book and is (potentially) dangerous.

Simon fabricated the book to cash in on the Nec name. BUT the spirits within for the most part are very real. The Goetia when written was also a fake book, there is nothing to suggest it was actually written by Solomon, but the spirits within are real and it follows a certain formula magicians have found to work for a long time, as does the Necronomicon. It really hinges on how you wish to define "fake book". No it is not an ancient sumerian text passed down through the ages, but yes the spirits are very real and can be contacted and worked with by following the instructions.

The dangerous part comes from people not taking it seriously and treating it as a game because it is "fake". Also the spirits described appear more readily and stronger than almost any text I have seen. I think if you starve spirits and gods for a long enough time they are willing to use anything to gain attention, even using something as silly as the Nec.


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QUOTE(Fio Praeter Humanus @ Dec 4 2009, 09:08 AM) *

The Necronomicon is a fake book and is (potentially) dangerous.

Simon fabricated the book to cash in on the Nec name. BUT the spirits within for the most part are very real. The Goetia when written was also a fake book, there is nothing to suggest it was actually written by Solomon, but the spirits within are real and it follows a certain formula magicians have found to work for a long time, as does the Necronomicon. It really hinges on how you wish to define "fake book". No it is not an ancient sumerian text passed down through the ages, but yes the spirits are very real and can be contacted and worked with by following the instructions.

The dangerous part comes from people not taking it seriously and treating it as a game because it is "fake". Also the spirits described appear more readily and stronger than almost any text I have seen. I think if you starve spirits and gods for a long enough time they are willing to use anything to gain attention, even using something as silly as the Nec.


Very well said Fio. I couldn't have said it better myself! Though having said that, i have yet to read Simon's book Dead Names that support that he actually merely edited the Necronomicon. So i can't really decide on whether or not it is a genuine manuscript because I have yet to fulfil my perspective on the origin of this dreaded tome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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I've been giving this some thought lately - personally I don't doubt that the Nec works because I've worked with it before and my experiences were mostly very disturbing.

However, although the book itself may have been fabricated, I wonder at the actual origin - above and beyond any cultural roots. Where exactly do 'ideas' come from anyway? Although I'm not at all inclined to believe in every tom dick and harry who says they are channeling information from archangels, extra-terrestrials, planetary spirits and ancient ascended masters, there is a kind of reverse percolation of information which descends (or ascends, or both) from the unstructured realm of raw potential into the human creative cycle to manifest as 'ideas' and such in ways that we recognize. For particularly aware individuals this is obvious in that sense of something approaching creatively but not yet 'ready' to take form - less aware folks I think experience more of a generalized sense of empowered excitement for apparently no reason before that realization suddenly breaks. I think the only difference is that those who can see in that direction through practice or natural aptitude possibly sense the approach earlier while in the former case they sense it when the current causes a particular set of patterns to form in the subconscious.

What I mean, of course, is that although this work and many others may be, strictly speaking, fictional works in the sense that they are not strictly academic - nonetheless they may be inspired by something more than just the desire to make money. It's possible that this reasoning for any particular author might be the cattle prod which instigated the physical work itself; but many of us here, I think, realize that sometimes your 'own' reasoning can be just a way to manipulate an individual into accomplishing some necessary thing.

This doesn't, in my opinion, make the Nec any more inspired than any other creative work, but no less inspired either. Perhaps the spirits called using the rituals outlined therein themselves manipulated that work into being. Perhaps the spirit (in the broad sense, not the individual soul) of Solomon inspired the Goetia as we know it.

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brokenhearth   Why They Say That Even If Necronicon Is Fake It Can Be Dangerous?   Aug 26 2009, 01:34 PM
Belumnabum   why they say that the Necronicon is fake and at t...   Aug 29 2009, 06:13 AM
Aphrodite   Its the whole thought form/god form theory.   Aug 29 2009, 11:00 PM
Penny_Lane   Many people who disagree with the politics or spir...   Sep 2 2009, 07:49 AM
Ankhhape   The late H P Lovecraft was a die hard atheist. He ...   Sep 2 2009, 04:50 PM
Hybrid Theory   why they say that the Necronicon is fake and at t...   Dec 2 2009, 06:17 PM
Vilhjalmr   This doesn't jive with any known Sumerian te...   Dec 2 2009, 10:59 PM
Kath   why they say that the Necronicon is fake and at t...   Dec 3 2009, 06:22 AM
Edunpanna   In Lovecraft’s stories, he makes note about a book...   Jan 6 2011, 07:09 PM
Edunpanna   In Lovecraft’s stories, he makes note about a boo...   Jan 10 2011, 09:31 AM
lightseeker   why they say that the Necronicon is fake and at t...   Dec 3 2009, 08:54 AM
Traceless   While the book itself is a work of fiction it does...   Jan 19 2010, 06:16 AM
SororZSD23   The late H P Lovecraft was a die hard atheist. He...   Jan 19 2010, 08:06 AM
Ex Lux   We may be talking about a book of dubious origin a...   Nov 9 2010, 11:49 PM

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