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valkyrie
post Jun 10 2009, 07:46 PM
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I am greatly interested in exploring this topic with you guys on this forum. I've read the various posts that mention the subject, but none of them attempt to actually explain the nature of possession and to tell you the truth...for all that I've read and experienced, I can't actually explain what it is. To clarify, when I say 'possession' I am not merely suggesting demonic possession but I am also referring to possession by gods, spirits, djinns, angels, elementals, extra terrestrials, animals etc. I am also referring to deliberate evocations, scrying methods, speaking in tongues, channeling, walk-ins, and astral parasites. Possession, in question, is not always malign...so I thought it might be time to explore both the good and bad of it, and to get down to the nitty gritty of how it happens and why.

I gratefully welcome anyone's explanation on the events leading up to possession, the process (particular concerning how the host's spiritual and emotional energies are manipulated to accommodate the being), symptoms, various forms of exorcism (not constrained to the christian method), and the aftermath.





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post Dec 13 2009, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(valkyrie @ Dec 13 2009, 04:24 AM) *

well, i don't doubt for a moment, that that there IS a tremendous amount of 'persuasion' going on in the physical world...but then my sense of confidence comes straight from my understanding of my higher self; i know my higher self has a higher intent and WILL that is unlikely allow me to be swayed by the whispers of petty spirits (or at least minimally so). I suppose that my overall connection and conscientiousness to regard my higher will power with the holy reserve it so desires and demands, would determine whether or not i was easily possessed to do things beyond my spiritual motive and gain. my guess is, one would have to be pretty shut off from their higher self not to have that kind of control? i dunno. just something to chew on.

I don't disagree at all. I'd just point out that not a lot of people are all that in touch with their higher self. And I'd submit that even if one is, it would still require due diligence to avoid influence. And, if we were really completely in tune with our higher selves, then in my belief structure, we'd effectively transcend our current spiritual state as human beings. So at least in my belief system, most of us have a ways to go yet with higher self integration.

it would be worth testing the extent to which your higher self work protects against this sort of influence. you could try with a hypnotist sometime, just to see how that goes, and get a feel for the sensation of having your conscious will tipped over. Better to proof things out in a friendly setting eh?

but ya, i do basically agree with everything you said.

QUOTE(valkyrie @ Dec 13 2009, 04:24 AM) *
i know this can happen. it is very confusing and incredibly uncomfortable...but it IS possible. i don't recommend it though.

comfort isn't a very important thing to me. If I can learn from it, i'm interested by default.
but your point is taken. I guess the question, for me at least, would become 'is there something worthwhile to be learned from it?'.

QUOTE(valkyrie @ Dec 13 2009, 04:24 AM) *
well i don't know about 'identical twins' but i am a fraternal twin...and me and my brother you could say are kindred spirits. we both decided in the process of reincarnating that we would be born and grow up together...and assist each other with our lessons and our spiritual endeavors. it has well been worth while thus far.

hmmm, well i was more thinking of identical twins, since they start out life as one single being, and then split into two. I've heard some mystic traditions suggest that they share a common soul or something like that. Honestly I'm not sure I buy that, but it is interesting, and loosely related to the topic.

QUOTE(valkyrie @ Dec 13 2009, 04:24 AM) *
iyou mean like kindred or certain otherkind? im kinda curious about this. im not sure what you mean.

was more thinking of people who contain 2 human souls in one body, lifelong or long term.
also interested in walk-ins.

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valkyrie   On The Nature Of Possession   Jun 10 2009, 07:46 PM
Goibniu   Wiccans and some Neo-pagans have a practice known ...   Jun 15 2009, 09:39 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   I am greatly interested in exploring this topic w...   Jun 15 2009, 10:39 PM
valkyrie   yes! goibniu and vagrant dreamer you guys are ...   Jun 16 2009, 03:06 PM
Goibniu   Speaking in tongues is a Christian practice that i...   Jun 17 2009, 01:19 AM
Jenfucius   I would add there are minor possession and major p...   Jun 20 2009, 06:51 AM
Imperial Arts   The Catholic Church, from which stem the main and ...   Jun 21 2009, 02:02 PM
valkyrie   Don't forget about multiple spirits entering e...   Jun 23 2009, 11:32 PM
Jenfucius   ...however I am not sure that possession is alway...   Jun 25 2009, 05:31 PM
valkyrie   We know, i think instinctively, that will power IS...   Jun 30 2009, 12:15 PM
Jenfucius   We know, i think instinctively, that will power I...   Jun 30 2009, 09:09 PM
valkyrie   jenfucius, (whom I have secretly nicknamed Delicio...   Jun 30 2009, 10:21 PM
Jenfucius   jenfucius, (whom I have secretly nicknamed Delici...   Jul 1 2009, 05:27 PM
Imperial Arts   I'm not sure why the Catholic Church takes th...   Jul 1 2009, 12:52 AM
Horse   I think this is one of those situations where what...   Sep 22 2009, 11:35 AM
Kath   wow what a cool thread! tons of neat input ...   Nov 3 2009, 12:27 PM
valkyrie   i think you make many good points, which deserve t...   Dec 13 2009, 04:24 AM
Kath   well, i don't doubt for a mome...   Dec 13 2009, 08:19 AM

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