Questions On Hga's, Want some info on identfying ones HGA Options

Greetings all,
Some time ago in one of my operations I had an angel present itself to me giving me its name and I was able to very clearly see it without a scying device..Its name is Lelayon. This angel had sayed close to me after revealing itself and I'm wonder if indeed its my HGA.. I looked it up in the listing of angels and sure enough it's listed under the number J-1 and also listed in the Kamea of the Angels of Saturn.
Since I'm a Capricorn and Saturn is my ruling planet it seems to fit. As from what I've read so far your HGA is usually related to your birth chart..
I can hear this angels voice very clearly and usually don't have to do more than vibrate his/her name to call it forth any thought on this?

Thanks Love and Light

In ceremonial magic, especially ceremonial magic since the turn of the 20th century, the "chosen ideal " (ishta devata or yidam) in a guise similar to the oriental one is called the Augoeides or Holy Guardian Angel.

The term Augoeides means “luminous being” in Greek. The term was used by a Neoplatonist named Porphyry who lived during the 3rd century and was the student of the father of Neoplatonism, Plotinus. Plotinus referred to it as a personal daimon in commentary on content from Plato (10th chapter of the Republic and the end of Timaeus, also Phaedo). It is described as a perfect, divine idea of oneself to aspire to. Through it, a person transcends the limitations of his incarnation and circumstance . See Plotinus. Our Tutelary Spirit. From the fourth tractate of the third Ennead. Translated by Stephan MacKenna. London: Penguin Books. 1991.

Kabala and Hermeticism figured into early medieval mysticism, and later Neoplatonism, which sort of disappeared with the ascendency of Christianity and was rediscovered in about the 15th century. In the 14th century, a book surfaced called The Book of Abramelin, attributed to a German Jewish Kabbalist. It outlines material on ceremonial magic and specifically is a very long and involved magical operation to realize a “Holy Guardian Angel.” After attaining this, one is promised all kinds of magical powers not unlike siddhis known in yoga (eg,, powers of magical flight, materialization, longevity, and other special powers).

At the turn of the 20th century (1897), this book was partially and somewhat inaccurately translated by Samuel MacGregor Mathers, who was the founder of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. He conflated the term with the Neoplatonic term Augoiedes. Aleister Crowley, who belonged to the Golden Dawn and spun off the Ordo Templis Orientis and other lodges from it, began to do work with and write about the Holy Guardian Angel and developed his own ideas about what it was and rites about achieving it. You can find these rites online. The idea is more or less the same as in Hinduism and Buddhism and Neoplatonism—to become your divine ideal and become empowered by it. For Crowley, this was to realize your true self and True Will.

Liber VIII: The Ritual Proper for the Invocation of Augoeides
www.themagickalreview.org/classics/liber_0008php

Invocation of the Augoeides, The Luminous Self
Being the Invocation of Holy Guardian Angel / True Willhttp://home.earthlink.net/~xristos/GoldenDawn/augoeides.htm

Drury, Nevil. Dictionary of Mysticism and the Occult.San Francisco. Harper & Row. 1985. p. 119
Holy Guardian Angel. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Guardian_Angel>.
Sutin, Lawrence. Do What Thou Wilt: A Life of Aleister Crowley. New York. St. Martin's Griffin. 2000 Addendum



Among magical practitioners, it is also not uncommon for them to relate to what you might call a spiritual guide or even an entity or projection that is experienced as a presence that acts as an astral lover a mentor or ideal to the point that it becomes a personal godform. These entities might considered to be an HGA. Whether they are real spiritual entities or projections or fragments of one’s own consciousness is a point that a person needs to decide for himself.

This post has been edited by SororZSD23: Jan 2 2010, 09:53 AM

In ceremonial magic, especially ceremonial magic since the turn of the 20th century, the "chosen ideal " (ishta devata or yidam) in a guise similar to the oriental one is called the Augoeides or Holy Guardian Angel.

The term Augoeides means “luminous being” in Greek. The term was used by a Neoplatonist named Porphyry who lived during the 3rd century and was the student of the father of Neoplatonism, Plotinus. Plotinus referred to it as a personal daimon in commentary on content from Plato (10th chapter of the Republic and the end of Timaeus, also Phaedo). It is described as a perfect, divine idea of oneself to aspire to. Through it, a person transcends the limitations of his incarnation and circumstance . See Plotinus. Our Tutelary Spirit. From the fourth tractate of the third Ennead. Translated by Stephan MacKenna. London: Penguin Books. 1991.

Kabala and Hermeticism figured into early medieval mysticism, and later Neoplatonism, which sort of disappeared with the ascendency of Christianity and was rediscovered in about the 15th century. In the 14th century, a book surfaced called The Book of Abramelin, attributed to a German Jewish Kabbalist. It outlines material on ceremonial magic and specifically is a very long and involved magical operation to realize a “Holy Guardian Angel.” After attaining this, one is promised all kinds of magical powers not unlike siddhis known in yoga (eg,, powers of magical flight, materialization, longevity, and other special powers).

At the turn of the 20th century (1897), this book was partially and somewhat inaccurately translated by Samuel MacGregor Mathers, who was the founder of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. He conflated the term with the Neoplatonic term Augoiedes. Aleister Crowley, who belonged to the Golden Dawn and spun off the Ordo Templis Orientis and other lodges from it, began to do work with and write about the Holy Guardian Angel and developed his own ideas about what it was and rites about achieving it. You can find these rites online. The idea is more or less the same as in Hinduism and Buddhism and Neoplatonism—to become your divine ideal and become empowered by it. For Crowley, this was to realize your true self and True Will.

Liber VIII: The Ritual Proper for the Invocation of Augoeides
www.themagickalreview.org/classics/liber_0008php

Invocation of the Augoeides, The Luminous Self
Being the Invocation of Holy Guardian Angel / True Willhttp://home.earthlink.net/~xristos/GoldenDawn/augoeides.htm

Drury, Nevil. Dictionary of Mysticism and the Occult.San Francisco. Harper & Row. 1985. p. 119
Holy Guardian Angel. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Guardian_Angel>.
Sutin, Lawrence. Do What Thou Wilt: A Life of Aleister Crowley. New York. St. Martin's Griffin. 2000 Addendum
Among magical practitioners, it is also not uncommon for them to relate to what you might call a spiritual guide or even an entity or projection that is experienced as a presence that acts as an astral lover a mentor or ideal to the point that it becomes a personal godform. These entities might considered to be an HGA. Whether they are real spiritual entities or projections or fragments of one’s own consciousness is a point that a person needs to decide for himself.

Thanks for your detailed response SororZSD23, Thats cool that you site your sources.
What you were refering to as a personal guide is kinda what I thought about this angel: Lelalyon" .My understanding of an HGA was limited soI reasoned It may even be a familiar of some sort, as I aquired it during a successful evocation of the sylphs when it presented itself.
As I stated in other posts here about this, I tested it with pentas and signs and it was true.
I made a Sigil for it using the Rose as its the only system I'm practised at. Another member sugested I scry for it's "true" sigil but I'm not quite practised at skrying to where I would be confident enough it would be accurate. Another thing I will add about this particular entity is that when I looked for it I found it listed as an angel of Saturn and figured to use the planetary Kamea-(square of saturn) to make it's sigil. I'm stil checking my work making sure I did it correctly as I have only "intuitions" and the texts,and as teachers
As you wrote in this post, the concept of HGA has a long and precarious history to say the least lol and people have wide and varried perceptions of what they are. For me GD style methods are what seems to work and what I'm drawn to.
I know to some the rose method as far as sigils goes seems archaic, until I get better at scrying I'll have to make due.
Thanks for this info as every piece is very helpful to me.

In Love & LVX , Sincerely Levitas

This post has been edited by Lightning777: Jan 11 2010, 09:40 PM