Lets See It Options

I've been debating whether I should take a break from posting at all anywhere, this internet seems to be a waste of time for me. Interestingly enough I've been actually practicing magick rather than talking about it. And talking about it generally gets me nowhere because I don't really get anything done other than trying to show my general wealth of knowledge in the hopes someone will compliment me, or I make a secret mockery of a person's blatant stupidity. I'm fairly certain this is what's going on in general, I've yet to see some interesting debate go on. Chaos was a certainly interesting read but multiple points were presented yet were unable to be thoroughly discussed or understood. So what I'm going to do is start a thread of something else entirely, and here it is.

What is the most recent magic(k)al working you've done and reaped results from? What procedure did you use? How did you come about finding these procedures? and did you repeat the experiment?

What was the most recent Magickal working, and what procedure did I use?

The most recent working I've done and have received benefits from was from a willful experiment, I was interested to see how easily I was able to manipulate the universe. So I went into the astrial and found a spirit to my liking. I got the spirit's name and sigil, we hashed out a contract and finally agreed. The job of this spirit was several, the spirit was to get me another job, and to make money for me. I would pay the spirit with ejaculation once per week and the spirit had a week to prove it's worth. I payed upfront and the next day I was to go pick up my paycheck. I went to the bank shortly after, which was packed and had only one teller working. I drove up through the drive-through, gave the man my check and waited for my money. The teller handed me an envelope and I drove off without looking inside. When I got home I opened the envelope compared the receipt and I had more than I should have (about 1/3 more).

Have I repeated the process?
No, for other reasons the contract was terminated.

How did I come about finding these Procedures?
It's been something I've been doing, kind of a mix between sigilization and astrial work.

Lets have another!

What was the most recent Magickal working, and what procedure did I use?

I wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle so I looked on craigslist to buy a bike. I'm currently in a really warm area so motorcycles are pretty expensive. So I made a sigil with symbols pertaining to what I needed (price, running, title etc.) and charged it. I initially wanted to pay 200$ for a motorcycle (street motorcycle) just to see if I could do it. Immediately after I charged my sigil (the next day) I went on craigslist and saw that there were a bunch of motorcycles on there closer to my price range (but not quite). I called around a bit and it was no use. It took in total THREE days to find what I was looking for, it just so happened my price range doubled because of the above working, and bought it for half of what the seller was asking for. So in total I payed 400 for a running street bike with a title, already payed off, with 25k miles on it.

Have I repeated the process?
Yes, the bike needed a new gas tank because it's old one was a bit corroded. I did the sigil work, charged it and found one in six days for only 40$, these gas tanks are 600$ new from the dealer.

How did I come about finding these Procedures?
Basic sigilization you can find in Liber Null, Book of Results, Prime Chaos, and many others.

Now, am I waving my dick around? Maybe, but I want to know what you guys actually do. This talking is getting old, and I'm tired of the 'demon' haunting a family or a curse that needs to be lifted: DRAMA! I want to see your results, and compare notes. So I've shown you mine, lets see yours shal we?

Fortune Favors Fools,
Dancin Coyote.

This post has been edited by Dancing Coyote: Jan 22 2010, 02:14 AM

Greetings Dancing Coyote!
Well, I've always said that I'd prefer it if people would be blunt and spell out just what they want instead of meandering in inuendo and supposition...you nearly put my eye out with that thing! LOL! But then, I WAS looking...
Look, may I remind you that this is a Discussion Forum, first and foremost. Sometimes, people just need to talk. I can truly understand the frustration involved here...you'd like to hear about practical results and methodology of other people, leaving all the petty drama aside. I take it that this will help validate what the whole 'Magic' thing is...and I can respect that.
I've always enjoyed listening to your ideas/questions etc. You have shown to be an intelligent and articulate person. Not knowing you better than what this Forum has to offer, I can't compliment you farther without blowing alot of smoke up your ass.

My accomplishments in 'Magic' have been strung out across decades, some effective, some not. I've tried the whole jack-off with intent until I was semi-concious and in a state of bliss. I can't honestly say that this method was what helped in a few experiments or not. What I do know is that a focused application of will and intent has given me far more than I'd normally receive from going through the standard 'work-for-a-living' scenario. I'm still alive even after all the so-called doctors have screamed at me that I should be dead. Whether or not my 'connection' with my 'patron' spiritual entity has anything to do with this (as I am sure that it does) is highly subjective and will not stand up under 'scientific' terms/stricture. Along with this life extension there are other times when I've applied shamanistic technique to gain insight AND control over situations that shouldn't respond to a thought... Where do I begin? I've been playing around with sigils before any of you were born. What does that mean? I indulged a very bad cocaine habit many years ago without spending a dime using sigil magic. I am not proud of that...at all! It almost killed me. Stupid is as Stupid does. You may concede that this is not something that I particularily wished to tell about...but I'm old now and I could care less what others think about my social transgressions. Needless to say I never, ever hurt ANYBODY other than myself with this foolishness!

In Imperial Arts book(s) he mentions a technique that utilizes a 'connection' with various place-spirits/genius loci. If you can, read it! I used methods similar to this many, many years before and have reaped the benefits thereof. My 'technique' was garnered from my childhood where/when I used to speak with creatures in my surrounding woodlands....the typical fairy stories. To me, they've always been true. OK, some dotty old man has conversation with Fairies. They've pulled my ass out of some hairy situations before and who knows? in the future.
I have found that simple shamanistic practice has gained me much over the years. More so than all the God names and Words of Power or strict ritual espoused in all those 'ancient' tomes. Pragmatic occultism is my cup of tea. What I have noticed thru the decades is that fooling around with ritual not of your basic nature will land you into some bad situations. I once, in a fit of lust, tried a full blown Amatory Ritual which involved the evocation of some planetary spirits. It was a success! Not what I wanted....but a success! Something answered me, and I ended up holed up inside a cedar lined closet with protective glyphs warding me for 2 days! Not at all nice. But I was a great magician! Being 'born' a materializing medium has been helpful AND horrifying...all at the same time. It really illustrates just how much we need to understand how we work and how we resonate with our environs. Honing any psychic skill to the best of your knowledge and ability is very important! It should be said, though, I haven't suffered from Magic...I have a roof over my head, food in my belly, great music and art to enjoy (and create) and some superlative friends (well...not as many as I'd like *grin*). I don't have to 'work' anymore so I have alot of time to enjoy my newest endeavors. Bending and shuffling 'reality' and practicing OBE's and studying the nature of trance-states. (I'm also into making various liqueurs (I don't drink) and distilled elixirs) You'll find that creativity can greatly augment Magic...something to ponder...

Well, with my usual flair for digression, I'm sorry for vomitting up all that blather. I'll not pretend that I'm saddened to see you go if your frustration and ultimation aren't met. You've been a very productive and memorable member here at Sacred Magick and I've come to respect you and your thoughts. Thank you Dancing Coyote! I mean that in all sincerity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

Greetings Dancing Coyote!
Well, I've always said that I'd prefer it if people would be blunt and spell out just what they want instead of meandering in inuendo and supposition...you nearly put my eye out with that thing! LOL! But then, I WAS looking...
Look, may I remind you that this is a Discussion Forum, first and foremost. Sometimes, people just need to talk. I can truly understand the frustration involved here...you'd like to hear about practical results and methodology of other people, leaving all the petty drama aside. I take it that this will help validate what the whole 'Magic' thing is...and I can respect that.
I've always enjoyed listening to your ideas/questions etc. You have shown to be an intelligent and articulate person. Not knowing you better than what this Forum has to offer, I can't compliment you farther without blowing alot of smoke up your ass.

My accomplishments in 'Magic' have been strung out across decades, some effective, some not. I've tried the whole jack-off with intent until I was semi-concious and in a state of bliss. I can't honestly say that this method was what helped in a few experiments or not. What I do know is that a focused application of will and intent has given me far more than I'd normally receive from going through the standard 'work-for-a-living' scenario. I'm still alive even after all the so-called doctors have screamed at me that I should be dead. Whether or not my 'connection' with my 'patron' spiritual entity has anything to do with this (as I am sure that it does) is highly subjective and will not stand up under 'scientific' terms/stricture. Along with this life extension there are other times when I've applied shamanistic technique to gain insight AND control over situations that shouldn't respond to a thought... Where do I begin? I've been playing around with sigils before any of you were born. What does that mean? I indulged a very bad cocaine habit many years ago without spending a dime using sigil magic. I am not proud of that...at all! It almost killed me. Stupid is as Stupid does. You may concede that this is not something that I particularily wished to tell about...but I'm old now and I could care less what others think about my social transgressions. Needless to say I never, ever hurt ANYBODY other than myself with this foolishness!

In Imperial Arts book(s) he mentions a technique that utilizes a 'connection' with various place-spirits/genius loci. If you can, read it! I used methods similar to this many, many years before and have reaped the benefits thereof. My 'technique' was garnered from my childhood where/when I used to speak with creatures in my surrounding woodlands....the typical fairy stories. To me, they've always been true. OK, some dotty old man has conversation with Fairies. They've pulled my ass out of some hairy situations before and who knows? in the future.
I have found that simple shamanistic practice has gained me much over the years. More so than all the God names and Words of Power or strict ritual espoused in all those 'ancient' tomes. Pragmatic occultism is my cup of tea. What I have noticed thru the decades is that fooling around with ritual not of your basic nature will land you into some bad situations. I once, in a fit of lust, tried a full blown Amatory Ritual which involved the evocation of some planetary spirits. It was a success! Not what I wanted....but a success! Something answered me, and I ended up holed up inside a cedar lined closet with protective glyphs warding me for 2 days! Not at all nice. But I was a great magician! Being 'born' a materializing medium has been helpful AND horrifying...all at the same time. It really illustrates just how much we need to understand how we work and how we resonate with our environs. Honing any psychic skill to the best of your knowledge and ability is very important! It should be said, though, I haven't suffered from Magic...I have a roof over my head, food in my belly, great music and art to enjoy (and create) and some superlative friends (well...not as many as I'd like *grin*). I don't have to 'work' anymore so I have alot of time to enjoy my newest endeavors. Bending and shuffling 'reality' and practicing OBE's and studying the nature of trance-states. (I'm also into making various liqueurs (I don't drink) and distilled elixirs) You'll find that creativity can greatly augment Magic...something to ponder...

Well, with my usual flair for digression, I'm sorry for vomitting up all that blather. I'll not pretend that I'm saddened to see you go if your frustration and ultimation aren't met. You've been a very productive and memorable member here at Sacred Magick and I've come to respect you and your thoughts. Thank you Dancing Coyote! I mean that in all sincerity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

"Do what thou wilt shal be the whole of the law"
Freud, Crowley countless others. Judgment is not my forte, my friend.

Now, I guess my interest lies in "what is your scientific process" I've been keeping a log of events which has proven to be really useful for many-a-thing. Simply writing in it once a day has proven over and over again how useful this is, and I thought it wasn't but to be honest I had no idea. Immediately after I started logging my events I was able to understand what was going on and when. And I was able to log my thoughts on certain subjects, books, ideas etc. Without this journal, I very highly doubt I would have received such results. I will stay and watch over you all with a keen eye, perhaps for the little blunderers into magick who need a push in the right direction.

I've found OBE can lead to overactive imagination when it comes to drama of the spirit world, silly results will be produced in order to justify these events. So for reasons I've found: it's necessary to have a clear idea in mind before taking yourself out, though it can be fun and interesting to a new practitioner. If one is adept at astrial work it is possible to take a fight to the astrial but when is there serious risk of battle? Indeed it may seem imminent but from what I've experienced they are rare occasions. Obviously barring the event a spirit called down thinks of you as a snack.

I like your stuff, Dancing Coyote. So hang in there. This site is slow but its my preferred board these days.

As a female practitioner with an interest in Chaos magick and Zos Kia , I've tried the sigiilization and oneristic charging practices without much result although I have had results when I sort of channel the sexual energy of a nale friend. The two last times I worked with the friend, 1) my computer monitor which had been messed up for a month spontaneously fixed itself and 2) a guy who people in my "lodge" felt magically assailed by fell off a 16 foot ladder. (--not that I wanted that to happen to him. I had been thinking about their and my own angst and invoking Glinda the Good Witch from the Wizard of Oz where she says "Rubbish! YOu have no power here. Begone! Before someone drops a house on you." But when I do banishing and averting magick, the results tend to be unintentionally severe. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blowup.gif) I totally crap out on love spells, though.

Early on, I had also experimented with adaptations of the death posture. As they say in astrology about certain transits, "weak, transient effect."

I also work best when I combine use of sigils with natural magic and shamanic technique. I don't follow recipes or instructions; I just adapt templates and act magically. I usually don't get too specific anymore when I define my intentions. Workings tend to then shift overall moods or circumstances. I often go into the woods and do some kind of meditation and imagine a sigil filling space and then feed beings in a kind of Buddhistic attitude and the effects can carry me through for days or weeks--or months.

About 2 weeks or so ago, I focused on money and work and used a sigil during a trance dance/shamanic drumming process I participate in with a group of women. I recevied enough money gifts for a milestone birthday to cover this month's mortgage as well as a refund check from my mortgage company and a paycheck that I had been waiting to receive since November. I also heard from several job leads. But magick or no magick. it's a long haul and life is rather precarious.One can connect the dots between intention and events or circumstance but it is all a matter of the placement of perception in a field of myriad potential happenings.
The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round . . . .

Now what was your methodology? Usually on sexual workings the magus has to clearly keep in mind what result s/he would like to have happen during the entire process (especially during ejaculation). Did you create a sigil? What method did you use to charge it? Furthermore did you log the events in a book? I think one must keep results in a book if one expects results. If you are able to explain your method I think we can try and hash out why no results are present. I've only been openly working alone, this does not mean I wouldn't be interested in joining IOT or .:A.:A but I doubt this will be anytime soon and I'd like to get a firm grasp on what I can do. I've kind-of taken the leap from generalized magick appearing in my vicinity, seeing it, and talking about it; to actually trying to influence the world around me, and even before I did not consider myself to be an armchair magician (so-to-speak). But looking back at myself I can see that I was indeed doing very little other than running my mouth. I did have very sound theory backing my ideas, but I did not have practice behind them, I am occasionally a pathetic individual when it comes down to it and I find these events very funny.

Fortune Favors Fools,
Dancin Coyote