Lets See It Options

I've been debating whether I should take a break from posting at all anywhere, this internet seems to be a waste of time for me. Interestingly enough I've been actually practicing magick rather than talking about it. And talking about it generally gets me nowhere because I don't really get anything done other than trying to show my general wealth of knowledge in the hopes someone will compliment me, or I make a secret mockery of a person's blatant stupidity. I'm fairly certain this is what's going on in general, I've yet to see some interesting debate go on. Chaos was a certainly interesting read but multiple points were presented yet were unable to be thoroughly discussed or understood. So what I'm going to do is start a thread of something else entirely, and here it is.

What is the most recent magic(k)al working you've done and reaped results from? What procedure did you use? How did you come about finding these procedures? and did you repeat the experiment?

What was the most recent Magickal working, and what procedure did I use?

The most recent working I've done and have received benefits from was from a willful experiment, I was interested to see how easily I was able to manipulate the universe. So I went into the astrial and found a spirit to my liking. I got the spirit's name and sigil, we hashed out a contract and finally agreed. The job of this spirit was several, the spirit was to get me another job, and to make money for me. I would pay the spirit with ejaculation once per week and the spirit had a week to prove it's worth. I payed upfront and the next day I was to go pick up my paycheck. I went to the bank shortly after, which was packed and had only one teller working. I drove up through the drive-through, gave the man my check and waited for my money. The teller handed me an envelope and I drove off without looking inside. When I got home I opened the envelope compared the receipt and I had more than I should have (about 1/3 more).

Have I repeated the process?
No, for other reasons the contract was terminated.

How did I come about finding these Procedures?
It's been something I've been doing, kind of a mix between sigilization and astrial work.

Lets have another!

What was the most recent Magickal working, and what procedure did I use?

I wanted to learn how to ride a motorcycle so I looked on craigslist to buy a bike. I'm currently in a really warm area so motorcycles are pretty expensive. So I made a sigil with symbols pertaining to what I needed (price, running, title etc.) and charged it. I initially wanted to pay 200$ for a motorcycle (street motorcycle) just to see if I could do it. Immediately after I charged my sigil (the next day) I went on craigslist and saw that there were a bunch of motorcycles on there closer to my price range (but not quite). I called around a bit and it was no use. It took in total THREE days to find what I was looking for, it just so happened my price range doubled because of the above working, and bought it for half of what the seller was asking for. So in total I payed 400 for a running street bike with a title, already payed off, with 25k miles on it.

Have I repeated the process?
Yes, the bike needed a new gas tank because it's old one was a bit corroded. I did the sigil work, charged it and found one in six days for only 40$, these gas tanks are 600$ new from the dealer.

How did I come about finding these Procedures?
Basic sigilization you can find in Liber Null, Book of Results, Prime Chaos, and many others.

Now, am I waving my dick around? Maybe, but I want to know what you guys actually do. This talking is getting old, and I'm tired of the 'demon' haunting a family or a curse that needs to be lifted: DRAMA! I want to see your results, and compare notes. So I've shown you mine, lets see yours shal we?

Fortune Favors Fools,
Dancin Coyote.

This post has been edited by Dancing Coyote: Jan 22 2010, 02:14 AM

Now what was your methodology? Did you create a sigil? What method did you use to charge it? Furthermore did you log the events in a book? I think one must keep results in a book if one expects results. If you are able to explain your method I think we can try and hash out why no results are present.

"To know, to dare, to will, to be silent" but what the hell. I'll try to explain myself without putting Bym at risk of having any eyes pop out or worse, considering his oft-noted antiquity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/connie_mini_oldman.gif) (we're about an hr and half away from each other, btw).

My methodology with the oneristic stuff was standard textbook more or less how you explained it yourself. One creates a sigil of a desire-intention, focuses strongly on the sigil ,not the intention, and strongly visualizes it during climax. I hear a lot of men --young men--say this works well for them. Good for them. I haven't had any discussions with women about this although I know of 1 friend who was not familiar with Zos Kia or any occultism who did something like this but never mentioned getting results. In any case, my theory of why this and certain types of sigil charging work--and I think this was Spare's theory--was that you create a quasi-traumatric event (orgasm or sexual peaking or overload) that drives the sensory input of the moment into the deep consciousness and nervous system where it becomes a complex--a program --that then reflects itself in behavior and perception. Behavior and perception modify circumstance and in this way magical intention can appear to manifest. I'm not so sure that this theory stands anymore but I have not formulated a new theory.

The sex magick method that "works" that I have been experimenting with started out when a friend kept telling me that he wanted me to talk him through playing with himself--kind of in a sub-dom trip-. I wrote about this recently in another forum on this site. He spent about 2 years trying to talk me into playing. I finally gave in about a year ago. Wasn't into, never really got into it but thought about how to make it useful to me. I would make a sigil. He would focus on me and I would focus on the sigil and intention. When this is happening, we are not in the same room and he may or may not be looking at only my face via Web cam. Rather than sexual feelings, I often feel as if I am in a very high, dynamic meditative state, like when I was practicing an esoteric Dzogchen kriya meditation . Meanwhile, my friend is just looking at my face and tugging on his thing, bringing himself just short of climax and starting again. (Frankly, I think it's retarded, but he's otherwise a close friend and that's how he has sex. Whatever.. Unfortunatelly, I don't know any men who can manage having sex the real way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/doh.gif) ) When we first started experimenting in this way, effects typical of psychic vampirism would occur . Over time, we figured out how to pace ourselves and inform each other to avoid these effects . At first, I also thought that his ejaculation and my focusing on the sigil at that point were important to sigil charging--but this is not the case--and did not translate into results.. In my focus on the sigil, I will simply come to a point of reverie and resolution regardless of what he's doing. Everything gets kind of white-light and calm. In the Glinda the Good Witch working, I focused on a sigil made from the statement in the movie "Rubbish, you have no power here. Begone." I imagined that I was Glinda the Good Witch and was, at first, anxiously and fearfully thinking about incidents regarding my acolytes and a person that they felt threatened by. My friend was concerned that I seemed bored, but I was just strongly focussed. At a certain point, I felt like Glinda the Good Witch and very calm and high. A day or two later, I got reports of things resolving among those friends/students who felt assailed. The person they felt threatened by promptly fell off a tall ladder w/o sustaining injury.

I sometimes do a technique similar to what is described by Xenomancer. I make a sigil and incense for the occasion, gather potion-like substances, create a ritual circle and then focus on the sigil and intention in a meditative way such that I visualize the sigil in 3-D form filling space. (Sometimes. I just burn the sigil w/incense and do this visualization). It is more about working up an intense energy-feeling and shooting it off "out there." The props just help set the mood. For this reason banishing/averting or rebounding magic works better than "love" magick because the emotion is much stronger, determined, and firmer and less whiney about the desired result (for me at least) I sometimes use a psy ball technique and sometimes mirror to launch such spells.

I also have an anecdote about a servitor.( I had created a servitor whose job , in part, is to protect me. I creaed it by simply visualizing the form, creating a sigil, a name, purpose, anda litany and burning incense and visuallizing while reflecting the late afternoon sun in a mirror. ) I had been at a party with the aforementioned guy who fell off the ladder (in more congenial days). A young woman spent the day hounding him for attention and being conspicuously rude to me. At a certain point, he and I were sitting and intently conversing. Along the wall above us were large wall panels that seemed decorative. The girl approached and lunged at the panel directly behind me--which was a cabinet. I had to duck to keep from gettng whacked in the head. I had been my demure, smilely self until that point. I traced the sigil of my servitor, had a suble seidr episode and imagined the thing biting her ass. At that moment. her levity dropped, she turned her face away and then she and everyone around her walked to the other side of the room. She did not approach me or him for the rest of the evening. Now, instead of smirking and rolling her eyes, she looks terrorized and keeps yards away from me whenever we happen to be in the same place at the same time..

I don't often write things down or try to standardize or exactly recapitulate things because the paradigm is always shifting. I work with templates. I've learned not to be too tight with results and to not think of result as made-to-order cakes. For me, magic is either purely experiential and experimental or else is a way to let off pent up energy or anxiety regarding a desire or obsession.

As for OBEs and astral travel, I know many people who are overly caught up in this and go overboard with self-referencing about their experiences. I sometimes use astral journeying technique but "with a clear idea in mind" about where II'm going. Because of my background in Eastern spirituality--and neurology--I have a different view of what is going on during these episodes than most people I know who are often just head-tripping. My mind has trouble getting there these days because it is not anywhere near as loud as it used to be.