Kriya Yoga, Indias quick fix solution? Options

Have (once again) taken an intrest in yoga as an attachment, a compliment to cerimonial magic. So far I've skipped from a few yogic practices, never staying with one long enough to actually learn or gain something from it all which, looking back over the years is a shame. Was having a discussion with someone a while ago and Kriya was mentiond and I've since been doing my research on the practice only to find that its touted in a way that should send esteemed, respectable practicioners running... or at least contorting facial muscles into ways enough for a flow of prana to invoke a questionable and weary mind state regarding the matter.

"Ten (or so) minutes equates to (several) life times of spiritual evolution"

"The fastest way to world unity"

"Shortcuts"

And so on, alongside an air of secrecy surrounding special karmaic busting techniques only to be reealed once an oath, taken in this life time but extending over several is taken. Other than on the cover of various contently repetitive books on western occultism I've never seen such buzz-wordism or apt crass marketing and of course like a bug to a blue light I find myself drawn in, inquizitive, perhaps hoping for an instant zap and a near death state all the while scouring the ground looking for the smoking carcasses of those who've failed or been crippled by its kundalini type approach... or at least ripped off by a content looking yogi .lol.

Perhaps due to the oaths and varying viels of secrecy, cloaks and shrouds emanating from the clouds of the Himalayas there dosent seem to be much nets worth of information out there regarding the actual practice, do think its reccomendation was perhaps linked to the secret masters myth of certain occult schools thinking about it but yeah... thought it worth a mention on here as it dosent seem to be talked about much.

Anyone practice it? Can you vouch for its efficiancy? Can't see how it compliments cerimonial practice as Ashtanga is said to.

Peace
.M.

I can't really give you a road map about it; it is something that just naturally happens in some meditators after awhile. If you know what it is, you just go with the flow and don't get freaked out by it. It could be as simple as sitting there and feeling compelled to raise your arm and hold it there or move your fingers in a certain position or else you could be thrashing around. You are usually not completely out of control when this occurs but the sensation to move happens like a nervous tic might.

when this happens as a meditation practice, it usually has beneficial effects--you feel lighter and your head and emotions are less noisy in daily life because you kind of shake the stress out during meditation. But when this happens uncontrollably in ordinary daily life among "Muggles, it is called pseudoseizure and mimics epilepsy to the untrained eye. It is a symptom of mental illness and the people who have it insist that they can't control it --although videos of these seizures can suggest otherwise--and they think that they have epilepsy and are often misdiagnosed. People who have pseudoseizures like this usually have a history of childhood sexual or physical abuse and other problems.

This post has been edited by SororZSD23: Feb 8 2010, 07:52 PM

So a person can expect "uncontrollable" phenomena whilst practicing Kriya, and its all in all related to Kundalini styled practice... is intresting, in cerimonial practice the Middle pillar tends to have the same effect or at times after or during a strong practice powerful surges of energy can be felt which can feel dangerous, especially if it involves the solar plexus but after a while you notice that your mind and body actively protects itself from certain happenings... forget the quote from the initiation cerimony, something about working the middle path, the light being too much for ones eyes and the darkness being too forboding. For me I would somehow trip or drop something breaking the current of a ritual that would otherwise "blind" me... knowing you've suceeded in invoking something that feels at home enough to have its presence felt can be... um... daunting, if that's the right word.... again if its too much the mind will rebut and somehow break communication to prevent what one would assume would amount to immanent psycological meltdown.

I guess yoga breaks down neurosis freeing energy whereas magick works a light on and grants you power over them/it, or something to that effect. Either way the "problem" is perhaps one of friction... as in magick its fear, it seems to provide enough tension to trigger an automated responce, tension, freezing up, closing or attempting to close doors of perception in responce to a stimulus... fine if its "external"... you can always run but an internal manifestation can't be met with fear and its resulting tensions... in my (ever so humble) opinion the mind and body are wise enough to deal with energy manifestations its where ones ego jumps in as protectorate in an ensuing battle that causes enough countering tension to break limbs and create unwarrented phenomena as its idea of self is built on blockages, on shallow shores for so long that it (the ego) has to guard from what ever threatens the fall of ones tower. Guess that's what we get for building ourselves up on our weaknesess, faulse sence of triumph in that I suppose, might cost you an arm and a leg. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hold the drum roll, I'll see myself out .lol.