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Vodun practitioners attacked at ceremony for Haiti earthquake victims
By The Associated Press, February 23, 2010, 5:00PM
http://bit.ly/cR1ukz




Angry crowds in a seaside slum in Port-au-Prince, Haiti, attacked a group of
Voodoo (Vodun) practitioners Tuesday, pelting them with rocks and halting a
ceremony meant to honor victims of last month's deadly earthquake.

Vodouists gathered in Cite Soleil where thousands of quake survivors live in
tents and depend on food aid. Praying and singing, the group was trying to
conjure spirits to guide lost souls when a crowd of evangelicals started
shouting. Some threw rocks while others urinated on Voodoo (Vodun)symbols. When
police left, the crowd destroyed the altars and Voodoo (Vodun) offerings of
food and rum.



(Photo: Voodoo (Vodun) followers watch as a crowd screams at them Tuesday as
they try to hold a ceremony in the Cite Soleil neighborhood of Port-au-Prince,
Haiti. http://bit.ly/cR1ukz)



"We were here preparing for prayer when these others came and took over," said
Sante Joseph, an evangelical worshipper in Cite Soleil, near the capital's
port, who joined the angry crowd in a concrete outdoor civic center.

Tensions have been running high since the Jan. 12 earthquake killed an
estimated 200,000 people and left more than 1 million homeless. More than 150
machete-wielding men attacked a World Food Program convoy Monday on the road
between Haiti's second-largest city of Cap-Haitien and Port-au-Prince. There
were no injuries but Chilean peacekeepers could not prevent the men from
stealing the food, U.N. spokesman Michel Bonnardeaux said.

Religious tension has also increased: Baptists, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses,
Scientologists, Mormons and other missionaries have flocked to Haiti in droves
since the earthquake to feed the homeless, treat the injured and jockey for
souls. Some Voodoo (Vodun)practitioners have said they've converted to
Christianity for fear they will lose out on aid or a belief that the earthquake
was a warning from God.

"Much of this has to do with the aid coming in," said Max Beauvoir, a Voodoo
(Vodun) priest and head of a Voodoo (Vodun) association. "Many missionaries
oppose Voodoo (Vodun). I hope this does not start a war of religions because
many of our practitioners are being harassed now unlike any other time that I
remember."

Voodoo, or Vodou as preferred by Haitians, evolved in the 17th century when the
French brought slaves to Haiti from West Africa. Slaves forced to practice
Catholicism remained loyal to their African spirits in secret by adopting
Catholic saints to coincide with African spirits, and today many Haitians
consider themselves followers of both religions. Voodoo's followers believe in
reincarnation, one God and a pantheon of spirits. Voodoo (Vodun)leaders say
that although they do not believe in evil spirits, some followers pray for the
spirits to do evil.

"There's absolutely a heightened spiritual conflict between Christianity and
Voodoo (Vodun) since the quake," said Pastor Frank Amedia of the Miami-based
Touch Heaven Ministries who has been distributing food in Haiti and
proselytizing.

"We would give food to the needy in the short term, but if they refused to give
up Voodoo (Vodun), I'm not sure we would continue to support them in the long
term because we wouldn't want to perpetuate that practice. We equate it with
witchcraft, which is contrary to the Gospel."

A magnitude-4.7 quake, meanwhile, rattled the capital at 1:26 a.m. Tuesday,
followed by a smaller aftershock whose magnitude was still unknown, said Eric
Calais, a geophysicist from Purdue University who is studying seismic activity
in Haiti.

A magnitude-4.7 aftershock struck Monday, followed by two other small tremors.
Both Tuesday's quake and Monday's aftershock struck near the epicenter of the
Jan. 12 quake. The U.S. Geological Survey in Colorado usually detects Haitian
quakes of magnitude 4 and above, but smaller tremors often are not detected due
to a lack of seismometers in Haiti.

Some walls that had toppled in last month's quake spilled onto the street
Tuesday and damaged telephone polls split in half. There were no reports of
injuries.

"It feels like the earth is shaking all the time since last month," said
Ermithe Josephe, 48, who is still sleeping outside in a tent next to her
crumpled house. "We can't sleep with all of these aftershocks and we're too
afraid to go to work sometimes."

Last month's earthquake occurred along the east-west Enriquillo Fault, where
two pieces of the Earth's crust slide by each other in opposite directions. The
USGS said Tuesday there is between a 5 percent and 15 percent probability that
another magnitude-7 quake would occur on the Enriquillo in the next 50 years.

Paisley Dodds of The Associated Press wrote this report.

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Forwarded by Ezili's Haitian Lawyers Leadership Network
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@ Petrus: +1 for the Matrix quotes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I was raised a Catholic, at least in my really early years, but after my parents got divorced when I was 4 it wasn't a big deal. *shrug* Most of the Christians I had run ins with and learned that these people have no idea wtf God is really about happened when I lived in the South as a kid in the early 80's. Let's just say most of the Southern stereotypes are true to a T, add to that I've still got my native NYC accent and things *did. not. go. well.* Moving out here to AZ saved my life, seriously. Most of the people involved in organised religion out here were either Catholic, which in most cases that meant they were Hispanics or of Eastern European descent, therefore persecuted minorities out here, or Mormons, which is probably one of the youngest denominations and also have a history of being a persecuted minority as well as having certain of its leaders assassinated. I've found both groups out here have very much a 'live and let live' way of going about things. A lot of Mormons I knew in high school didn't see their mission as spreading the word of God, most could have cared less. Instead they saw it as a combination of foreign exchange which would give them a leg up in the job market (true) and an excuse to get as far as they could away from their folks and party!! which was probably not so wise. :? They took a dim view of the missionaries that knocked on your door and wouldn't leave you alone. Despite the stereotypes, I've only had one group of Mormon missionaries that would NOT go away--they never came back when I threatened to press charges for stalking and trespassing.

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Never having direct contact with extremist Christians, except as previously mentioned, I did not know a lot of the stuff you posted. They're not *ahem* 'that sort' of people that those of my background associate with. *shrug* I'm with DuQuette on this one--if you feel a need to believe what evangelicals do, it helps to have a corner of your mind reserved for religious mental illness and visit it as infrequently as possible. :/ If this is the God these people believe in then I want none of it--the God I've learned about and come in contact with has no need for such playground dictatorships. :/ Seriously, these people need to be taken to the psych ward and asked 'wtf can't you people think for yourselves?' Sad part is it's probably because they're that lazy. :/

@Mchawi: Good points. Here in the US we're not taught very much about our *own* history, let alone that of other continents. Africa is taught about because it's part of slavery--if it weren't, I'm afraid our school maps would still be marked with 'here be dragons' over the continent. :/ I know all about the dark legacy of European colonialism--the British kept the ethnic groups fighting each other so that way they couldn't unite and kick out the British. That legacy unfortunately remains. I don't expect them to *want* to be like the West, but that doesn't change the fact they often want what we have, and then the mindsets clash and everything hits the fan.

Here's the question I have though--even if these people reverted to their tribal ways of life, they've been 'corrupted' by the West and can never go back to a pre-colonial mindset. Given that a lot of these wars and conflicts are over resources, and the rate of environmental degradation there doesn't help, what's to stop them killing each other if all the corporations and elites moved out? It sounds like, to me anyway, that it's more a case of the elites of those countries not having a vested interest in the welfare of their people--and the same thing is happening in the West, too, but it's just not as messy--yet.

Haiti is a failed state, basically. They have more NGO's there per capita than any other nation and they still can't get their shit sorted out. They need to ask themselves where they want to be as a country, and what do they want for their people? Not starving is a good first step, but what happens after that? What sort of industries do they want to attract? What kind of nation do they want to be? It's easy to blame others, and in Haiti's case a lot of it is frankly justified, but there comes a time when blame doesn't do anything to get problems on the ground fixed.

My $3.

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Mchawi   Vodun Practitioners Attacked At Ceremony For Haiti Earthquake Victims   Feb 25 2010, 12:00 PM
Petrus   Angry crowds in a seaside slum in Port-au-Prince,...   Feb 25 2010, 03:15 PM
Darkmage   That's just disgraceful. God--and I mean the ...   Feb 25 2010, 03:18 PM
Petrus   Edit: Petrus, your post went in at the same time ...   Feb 26 2010, 12:57 AM
Darkmage   OMG, that would be beyond hilarious. The Big Broth...   Feb 26 2010, 05:45 AM
Petrus   OMG, that would be beyond hilarious. The Big Brot...   Feb 26 2010, 06:54 AM
Mchawi   Part that got to me was the bit about not helping ...   Feb 26 2010, 08:41 AM
Darkmage   Dayum. Poverty, unemployment, and fear for surviv...   Feb 26 2010, 09:07 AM
Petrus   Poverty, unemployment, and fear for survival driv...   Feb 27 2010, 04:14 AM
Mchawi   .lol. Say away, everyone is entitled to an opinion...   Feb 26 2010, 07:31 PM
VitalWinds   Christians attacking other religions... I wish I c...   Feb 26 2010, 08:13 PM
Dancing Coyote   so much for my dreams of finding a sexy voodoun pr...   Feb 26 2010, 10:15 PM
Petrus   Seriously, these people need to be taken to the p...   Feb 27 2010, 07:44 AM
Darkmage   De Beers is Dutch South African (Afrikaans), not E...   Feb 27 2010, 08:25 AM
VitalWinds   Darkmage..... seriously? Did you give Petrus a rep...   Feb 27 2010, 11:15 AM
Petrus   Darkmage..... seriously? Did you give Petrus a re...   Feb 28 2010, 12:30 PM
Darkmage   +1 is techsupport slang that means something espec...   Feb 27 2010, 12:31 PM
Petrus   Oh, and I forgot something that I wanted to add ab...   Feb 28 2010, 01:20 PM
Mephilis   Obviously this is a case of Christian hypocrisy at...   May 5 2014, 03:59 AM
Mephilis   Sorry guys I don't mean to sound harsh. For re...   May 6 2014, 03:53 AM

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