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post Aug 24 2008, 08:39 PM
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Anyone here have any theories on dejavu we get when we know for a fact we've never been in a similar situation so should not be remembering being in a similar situation?

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Interesting article, and yes I know that the govt and military, etc. are studying these things, but precognition and clairvoyance, etc. are not necessarily the same phenomena a deja vu. Also, experiments in which people are emotionally primed with stimuli and then react in anticipation of the stimuli demonstrate priming and conditioning, not precogntion. Although I am not rejecting the notion that precognition or mind transmissions, etc. do occur. This is in the realm of consciousness research.

I will relate a personal anecdote: I once attended a workshop with a famous woman guru-type. She spent the 3 days mind-reading people in the audience, many of whom were her students or admirers. During this workshop, people were encouraged to stand up and share some traumatic tale about themselves. (The whole weekened kind of felt like this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) to me.) On the last day of this circus, I began to "hear" full sentences of what the guru was going to say moments before she said it.The experience was qualitatively different from the type of sensation one gets from a deja vu or jamais vu . Within the last hour or so of this 3-day retreat, a woman in the back of the audience stood up and began to tell a horrific tale about her father, who had been an officer in the French foreign legion. In a rambling and garbled tone, this woman related that her father was an incredibly brutal person who beat and abused her mother and brother and there was something in there about him sexually abusing and murdering people in front of her. I was a shaking, sobbing wreck listening to this--less because the story was gruesome than because I heard in my mind what this person was going to say before she said it. So I would hear a horrific revelation in my mind and then this woman would say it as if to confirm the thought in my head--a double whammy. I also was "primed" to have a certain kind of cognitive and emotional experience at that point because I had spent 3 days listening to people's horror stories, with the crazy lady guru egging them on and telling people what they were thinking.

Human beings probably do perceive and communicate in ways beyond the normally recognized means --what we refer to as extrasensorially -- and science is just now skimming the surface about recognizing the depth of if and its mechanisms. It is probably not "extrasensory," though. There are a lot of facets of consciousness and development and modification of consciousness that we just don't know how to explain or manage mechanistically--although the mastery of these things has been in the realm of mysticism and occultism.

As a professional writer and editor, I don't take quick articles like the link at face value. To really get a grasp of what is being explained, you need to follow-up on all the names noted in the article and look at the source material.


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