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post Mar 9 2010, 12:23 PM
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I am hoping someone can shed some light on this for me.

In Wicca, they have the four elements combined with the four directions. You have North and Earth, West and Water, South and Fire, and East and Air. The four directions makes perfect sense, but the four elements doesn't.
The way it would make more sense to me is if Fire was opposite Air, and Water opposite Earth.

In our world, the fire is at the bottom and the air is on top, the water and earth are both in the middle and are opposite to each other.

Does anybody know a Wiccan tradition that had it this way?

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post Mar 11 2010, 12:17 PM
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hey, soror beat me to it! - yeah, what she said lol

no circles, no quarters, no friggin watchtowers, not even rhyming poetry - spelling was, and in some odd trads still is, spelling out a magical word or few that meant more to the witch that to the universe or goddess or whatever - spelled out of course cause the word would shatter everything if said aloud, or that was the tetragrammatory belief, which is another borrowed philosoply - in a time when most couldn't write, spelling was important and arcane and getting it right was even more important

things are always evolving and if i choose to add a fifth element of spirit pouring from the top and down the sides of a pyramid into the four elements, and presenting that as my witch's pentacle, or adjusting the associations of those elements to the points of my pyramid-pentacle to be more aligned to what i feel rather that what i read or others are saying, then i am making my system more powerful, at least for my use

opposites are opposites after all cause they're opposite, but all that exists due to duality, and im trying my very best to rid myself from duality as much as possible, so my pyramid-pentacle is more in keeping with my practice than with witchcraft, and for many, especially beginners, it would probably not make sense at all when viewed from a particular tradition, but i truly don't care if its in alignment with some theory of witchcraft or sorcery or is simply chaos, for the test is in whether it works, and not for others, but for you, as it is your creation and your methodology, not a tradition's

a wise chef uses a recipe as a basis,not a law or requirement, but the wise chef also knows that many chefs before have experimented and learned that things didn't work well, and we, as wise chefs, need to learn of and remember those failures of the past so as not to repeat them in our own recipes, not because they violate some tradition or other, but simply because they don't work well - then there are a few idiots like me who actually try out the things that have been abandoned to see if they still don't work, or not



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